aren’t exactly known for their concern for the environment or animal welfare beyond recognizing that things like soil fatigue and over-farming would eventually render it unfit for production to feed the humans.
lol… so in other words you mean recognizing environmental concern. Is this that materialism I keep hearing about?
Yeah. If you’re only concern is “how much can we exploit the environment until it’s unfit for human use”, you’re treating the environment like it’s a material for human consumption.
Elementary school level of understanding tells you that focusing on the benefit of land because it benefits humans is still a good thing. The more we focus on long term environmental goals the more we will tackle all facets of them, the PSL has written about it in modern language, and that’s only one org.
whining about theory gets you nowhere. I promise you you won’t meet leftists who feel good about factory farming.
You can do this kinda stuff on the internet all you’d like and call us cultists for our politics but if you’re going to engage with people like us you’re gonna get real answers based on material conditions (both future and past). Sorry it’s not the argument you want but eradicating capitalism will rapidly increase education and literacy, workplace independence and most importantly eradicate the drive for profit, as others have said, even in ways like profit driven FOOD and WATER consumption leading to over farming and wasting products that go moldy on the shelf because they’re too expensive, and on and on. Hurl insults all you want, you’d fit right in on Reddit
This thread is full of leftists who don’t “feel good” about factory farming, but still abide it abide it whether it’s under a capitalist system or a socialist system. China’s socialist and hasn’t abolished factory farming. Y’all don’t “feel good” about it but it’s an acceptable practice because fundamentally we disagree on the rights of humans versus non-human life. You could also put a decent dent in the power of capitalism, environmental damage, consumerism, and waste if you prioritized eliminating the capitalists while retooling the system. But that kind of talk is what’s gotten me banned from Reddit repeatedly.
“Lots of modern writing is still just words”. Words without action are just “thoughts and prayers” of liberals acknowledging a problem to signal virtue publicly while quietly ignoring the problem or agreeing to pass it on to a later generation. Tell me, do you “feel bad” because you empathize with the suffering, or do you “feel bad” because you’re ashamed you are aware of the suffering yet put little effort into correcting it? Or is “feeling bad” one of the points you don’t actually believe?
lol… so in other words you mean recognizing environmental concern. Is this that materialism I keep hearing about?
Yeah. If you’re only concern is “how much can we exploit the environment until it’s unfit for human use”, you’re treating the environment like it’s a material for human consumption.
Elementary school level of understanding tells you that focusing on the benefit of land because it benefits humans is still a good thing. The more we focus on long term environmental goals the more we will tackle all facets of them, the PSL has written about it in modern language, and that’s only one org.
whining about theory gets you nowhere. I promise you you won’t meet leftists who feel good about factory farming.
You can do this kinda stuff on the internet all you’d like and call us cultists for our politics but if you’re going to engage with people like us you’re gonna get real answers based on material conditions (both future and past). Sorry it’s not the argument you want but eradicating capitalism will rapidly increase education and literacy, workplace independence and most importantly eradicate the drive for profit, as others have said, even in ways like profit driven FOOD and WATER consumption leading to over farming and wasting products that go moldy on the shelf because they’re too expensive, and on and on. Hurl insults all you want, you’d fit right in on Reddit
This thread is full of leftists who don’t “feel good” about factory farming, but still abide it abide it whether it’s under a capitalist system or a socialist system. China’s socialist and hasn’t abolished factory farming. Y’all don’t “feel good” about it but it’s an acceptable practice because fundamentally we disagree on the rights of humans versus non-human life. You could also put a decent dent in the power of capitalism, environmental damage, consumerism, and waste if you prioritized eliminating the capitalists while retooling the system. But that kind of talk is what’s gotten me banned from Reddit repeatedly.
Like I said, lots of modern writing on it. But apparently arguing against points I don’t actually believe is easier.
“Lots of modern writing is still just words”. Words without action are just “thoughts and prayers” of liberals acknowledging a problem to signal virtue publicly while quietly ignoring the problem or agreeing to pass it on to a later generation. Tell me, do you “feel bad” because you empathize with the suffering, or do you “feel bad” because you’re ashamed you are aware of the suffering yet put little effort into correcting it? Or is “feeling bad” one of the points you don’t actually believe?
… what?