Body camera footage shows the moment an LMPD officer hands a woman in labor a citation for unlawful camping as she waits for an ambulance.

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    TF… she’s got no home, so what are they gonna do after the kid pops out? Make her surrender the baby? Send her and the kid back to the street? I’m sure all of her stuff will be gone by the time she gets out.

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      what are they gonna do after the kid pops out?

      Separate the child from the mother and feed them into the underfunded, over-bureaucratized foster system, where the state will pay several times more than the cost of living for mother and child to turn an infant into a marketable commodity for private adoption.

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      People really have no idea the meaning their words convey.

      It’s not proof, it’s a sample size of 1 and I’d say it’s much more a display of delusion and hate than ‘cognitive damage’.

      You think you’re helping, but you aren’t.

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        It’s okay to let people be angry about things that should enrage everyone with a pulse. Their sentiment is 100% accurate even if their words aren’t perfectly precise.

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          It’s not perfect precision I’m suggesting. A modicum of reality and logic is all, because by ‘being angry’ and making outlandish claims like that, it hurts the whole movement.

          It’s essentially ‘Trumpism’, just say whatever you want about people you don’t like and present it as fact.

      • FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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        and every other cop on that force will back this asshole to the blue.

        ACAB doesn’t mean that every cop is running around raping and extorting sex from everyone; or that they’re all running around killing black kids. ACAB does mean that the ones who are “good” are also protecting the ones who are bad rather than arresting them and treating their fellow cops as they would any one else.

        if you show me a cop who isn’t, I’ll show you a cop whose not been on the job long enough to find out.

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          if you show me a cop who isn’t, I’ll show you a cop whose not been on the job long enough to find out.

          So MCAB or AACAB?

          (Most / Almost All)

          Was just discussing in another thread, referenced the Sith dealing in absolutes instead of using a phrase like “Policing Enables Bastards” in an attempt to be more accurate and harder to dismiss.

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            Nope. Cops know what they are pretty quick. It’s practically impossible to last more than a week or two without becoming a bastard.

            The blue wall is real, and they don’t allow people who might break rank stick around.

            Corruption in police is an everyday occurrence and you either chose to ignore it or not be a cop.

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              Thanks for your response.

              Interesting you give that timeline because when I hear ACAB, a hypothetical officer comes to mind who joins a department on a Monday, blows the whistle on something corrupt and evil on Tuesday, and is forced to hand in their badge on Friday.

              I want to broadcast to my fellow Americans that if:

              • you are not corrupt, and
              • you will not stand for corruption, and
              • you want to try to be the change

              …I will not insult you for having a disparate strategy compared to mine or the average person’s on this site.

              Maybe 720,651 out of the 720,652 full-time cops in the US are baddies, but that last one who’s on probation because of some good in their heart - I choose my words carefully for them. They necessitate the three-letter acronym.

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                That’s nice. They won’t give you the same consideration.

                By the way, the 1-2 weeks is more of a maximum, before they kill you in a “training accident” or “accidental friendly fire” because Officer Unicorn was “in the wrong place”

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                  Yes, Officer Unicorn, sure! One can support the unicorn nature with data, so that’s a defensible phrase.

                  Officer Unicorn would give me the same consideration right? They’re one in a million in this hypothetical.

                  So, why PEB - because ACAB disrespects the good one[s*] killed “accidentally”. Maybe they were even gonna get jaded and become true class traitors one day but no need to go Minority Report on them.

                  *assumes at least two good officers since 1776

                  btw I’m not always this stubborn about semantics - maybe often but not always, thanks for engaging

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        Nah bruh you the one not helping if you trying to provide apologetics for this kind of behavior. It deserves no charity, and making the argument it does means you are the bad guy.

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        the fact it happened and she wasn’t helped instead shows you all you need to know. cops are dog shit. fuck them all, unempathetic ass hole bullies.

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        it’s a sample size of 1

        Whoo! That was a good one. wipes tears of laughter

        We should be so lucky.

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          Thousands of individual instances of pregnant women in labour being cited?

          Again, words matter kiddies.

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        A lack of empathy can legitimately be viewed as “cognitive damage”. And this is by no means an isolated case. Not even remotely.

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          Good comment - I think I’d disagree though. A lack of empathy can certainly be caused by cognitive damage but I don’t think it IS cognitive damage. I could be wrong though.

          It’s not an isolated case, no, but this video and comment thread is.

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          No it’s not an isolated case, but that comment is directly about this isolated case, stating it’s proof against an entire profession.

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        Agreed. Call it what you will, but this is not “cognitive damage”. These pigs aren’t retarded, they’re doing shit like this on purpose.

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          Fucking thank you, someone who can see past emotion and use basic logic. The world needs more people like you

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    Sen. Whitney Westerfield, a Republican from Fruit Hill who chaired the Senate Judiciary Committee, was one of the bill’s more vocal opponents. When he learned of the citation against a woman in labor, he called it “deplorable.”

    A Republican showing compassion? Is that allowed?

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      There’s always a “Republicans shocked to discovery what they vocally campaigned on would come to pass” headline in-between election cycles.

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        This Republican was a voice against it, however.

        There is a minority of Republicans that have actual republican values and are being drowned out, similarly to the socialists within the democratic party.

        Its rare to see one, they have to hide now, leaving the typical “Republican” as a far right soulless thing. But this might be an instance of it.

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          actual republican values

          Actual Republican values are still deplorable. They are just more polite than what we’ve seen in recent years. The magats have done a great job of helping everyone to forget that R was never a friend to queer folks, minorities, women, nor anyone not white enough and Christian enough for them.

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        It’s also important to note that state parties are different from the national party - as an example Vermont Republican Governor Scott is pro-choice and supportive of trans rights… a lot of state politicians aren’t there to grandstand and instead work to solve local problems. Now, that bullshit politicking has been making it’s way more often to the state level so that is changing but it’s usually good to read up on politicians at the state level.

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            Oh yeah - WA GOP is fucking insane - they’re basically just assholes that bought into the same bullshit that’s thoroughly infected Idaho.

            Man, Idaho is fucking scary.

        • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldOP
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          Vermont Republican Governor Scott is pro-choice and supportive of trans rights…

          That wasn’t particularly uncommon back in the 80s/90s when “Pro-Life” was more of a regional religion moniker than a partisan brand. We had Texas Republicans like Kay Bailey Hutchinson who were Pro-Choice and Delaware Democrats like Joseph Robinette Biden who were Pro-Life. Same with Log Cabin Republicans and DOMA-voting Democrats, straight through the Bush Jr administration.

          Scott’s a classic “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republican that used to be all over the New England area a generation ago. He loves tax cuts for his buddies in business and private charity schemes that let philanthropists hog the limelight without obligating them to spend more than they feel like and small-government rhetoric that plays well with liberal libertarians. He’ll sign bills that loosely mandate the purchase of private insurance and cap property taxes that fund local schools, but shies away from a truly public health care or higher education system.

          it’s usually good to read up on politicians at the state level.

          They’ve got different masters than their national counterparts. But you’ll find just as many deplorables at the state level.

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      Definitely. Egregious lack of foresight they the police office didn’t write two tickets. One for her and one for the child she was carrying. Life begins at conception so that fetus is as guilty as she is.

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      A Republican showing compassion? Is that allowed?

      Next week they’ll be calling him a RINO just wait.

      It’s enough for me to call him a RINO right now…

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    No one’s crueler to the needy like the “Christians” from America’s Bible Belt states.

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    Same police force who only prosecuted only one officer in the Breonna Taylor killing (IIRC) because he might have endangered others by firing randomly from outside the house apartment building.

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    Anyone that would be that stupid to pull that act has got to be an idiot … and to know that all of it was being actively recorded on a body camera that could be accessed and requested later on … this has got to be the dumbest idiot in a uniform to date.

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      and to know that all of it was being actively recorded on a body camera that could be accessed and requested later on

      They’ve had decades if not centuries of cover, even since the introduction of bodycams. Actual scrutiny is new and rare, and they often seem not to care that they are being recorded. I think they are semi-consciously sure no one will care enough to look at the footage.

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      Lt. Caleb Stewart

      Holy fuck after reading that article it’s clear Lt. Caleb Stewart has made it his personal mission to fuck with as many homeless people as he possibly can.

      Kicking folks when they are down - pretty on point for cops, but this guy seems to really get into it.

      I would like to personally tell Lt. Caleb Stewart of the LMPD to go fuck himself. I’m confident that they are searching for social media reaction, and my reaction to Lt. Caleb Stewart is that he’s an absolute piece of hot garbage who has clearly made a career out of finding folks who are already experiencing the worst part of their lives and then making those parts even worse.

      Stewart was enforcing a new state law that bans street camping — essentially, a person may not sleep, intend to sleep, or set up camp on undesignated public property like sidewalks or underneath overpasses. He has issued the majority of the citations for unlawful camping in Louisville.

      That part above, in the article, about how he has issued the most citations, links to ANOTHER article, which says this.

      Since a Kentucky law criminalizing “unlawful camping” went into effect in July, its enforcement in the commonwealth’s largest city has primarily fallen to one Louisville Metro Police lieutenant.

      At least 26 times between July 15 and Nov. 20, Lt. Caleb Stewart criminally charged people with violating the unlawful camping law for lying on blankets under overpasses, sleeping in tents on sidewalks and otherwise living on the streets.

      In that same timeframe, all other LMPD officers issued a combined total of 18 unlawful camping citations.

      In enforcing the camping ban — sometimes charging the same homeless individual on different occasions after they continue living on the street — Stewart is regularly dealing with the city’s most vulnerable residents.

      But Stewart, who leads LMPD’s Downtown Area Patrol, is also facing a 20-day suspension for not reporting a subordinate using a “choking technique” on a man with an apparent mental illness after he chugged a stolen drink in a Louisville hotel’s gift shop last year, The Courier Journal has learned.

      An eventual LMPD internal affairs investigation determined the subordinate’s actions constituted an unjustified use of deadly force.

      https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/crime/2024/12/18/lmpd-officer-appeals-suspension-tied-to-use-of-force-at-marriott/76733370007/

      Absolute Bastard.

      And from the first article, much as it pains me to find myself in agreement with a Republican (clearly this guy chose the wrong party, this is far too human a response):

      “It’s brutal and unnecessarily so,” Westerfield said. “If they need to cite her or if she’s done this and been unlawfully in a public place this way many times or multiple times, then that should condemn society’s failure to provide help for her before it should result in a criminal process against her.”

      He’s absolutely correct.