• limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    I’m not sure USA politics can be solved by replacing individuals. Seems to be an institutional issue

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      7 days ago

      To extend the cancer metaphor, a metastisized cancer can still be worth operating on to give the chemotherapy a better chance of success.

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      8 days ago

      Let’s start with people and see what changes. “Institutional issue” is often a product of just a handful of people. Remove the entrenched old money Dems and watch progressives flood the party.

      The left is now “business focused” and the right is “money focused” with no room for the problems of us normal people. If CEO and business are determined to set a line between us and them, then “us” will unite to become"we" and they don’t that. Let’s get rid of the people who are a problem and use the organization they use to promote those who care about other people.

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        8 days ago

        The institutional part of it is WHY it’s difficult/impossible to get rid of the corporate politicians. You can say we should vote out x or we should support y policy, but it doesn’t really matter if the entire electoral system is set up to stop that from happening.

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          8 days ago

          Too much effort is spent on tearing down a system that is literally built to withstand outside influences. Has anyone ever changed a government from outside the government without violence? To make the work matter, the effort needs to be applied to the problem areas, those few individuals who are at the top and prevent any needed change.

          Voting absolutely works or else Russia and Republicans wouldn’t worry about it. Male change happen by voting for a Democrat who will support the people, not business. A politician who cherishes the value of their community and not money.

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            2 days ago

            Voting works when there is both turnout; and accurate counting based on easy to understand methods which can be verified to everyone’s satisfaction.

            That is not the case for the majority of USA states where the exit polling fails using computer counts that require faith.

            The only reason this has been unchallenged for decades is that deep down, most people understand government is fundamentally broken and cannot be repaired by any method including peaceful protest or violence

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        7 days ago

        Not sure thatll work but its worth a try. And its for science. Or at least math and statistics.

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      7 days ago

      Its a voter issue.

      Dem voters suffer from this delusion that because they are more educated, think up clever names for Trump supporters, post screenshots of conservatives getting roasted on Twitter and pointing out all the logical fallacies in republican policies that they are winning.

      Trumps voters can be functionally illiterate, effectively retarded and possibly inbred but they cared enough to VOTE. Its literally the only thing that matters. You can have 6 Phds and are literally never wrong about anything but that vote only counts as much as Cletus McGee who has never left Deer tick creek Alabama his whole life. They actually know how to win an election, they turn the fuck up.