"Under the surveillance program, the NYPD “mapped out every mosque within 100 miles of New York” and initially studied “more than 250 mosques in New York and New Jersey.” By 2006, the NYPD had also “identified 31 Muslim student associations and labeled seven of them ‘MSAs of concern.’” In New Jersey, surveillance “extended across at least 20 mosques, 14 restaurants, 11 shops, two schools and two Muslim student groups.”
Whoever or whatever is behind this drone thing (if there is any substance to it at all) scares me far less than the NYPD. I would rather deal with literal actual extraterrestial aliens from another planet than the NYPD, fuck the NYPD.
The NYPD is an organization of violence not an institution of public safety and it has grown out of control like a cancer.
Making it difficult for IAB to investigate reports of misconduct, Brooklyn Borough President Eric Adams, a former NYPD captain, told the wire service Reuters in late 2014 that the IAB leaks the identities of NYPD officers who file complaints against other officers. Of the broken system to investigate official misconduct, Borough President Adams said, “There’s no real outlet to report the abuse.”[231]
After Eric Garner’s July 2014 chokehold death, the Department of Investigation issued a report, examining 10 cases where the CCRB substantiated complaints about officers using chokeholds. The report showed that the NYPD rejected recommendations for discipline in a majority of the examined cases, raising concerns about the lack of accountability for police misconduct. Philip Eure, the inspector general of the NYPD, told The New York Times, “Obviously, we are going to be looking at a broader sample of cases to see if it’s more systemic, but people should be troubled by the disconnect that we determined exists already in the disciplinary process.”[232]
An independent 2015 investigation into the transparency of New York government agencies showed that the NYPD was resistant to revealing even basic information about itself. A request filed under the state’s Freedom of Information Act seeking the names of the NYPD’s employees was denied on the basis that a list of employees was information that was not in the “possession, custody, or control” of the agency. The investigation, conducted in joint co-operation between the transparency Web site MuckRock and the news publication The New York World, surveyed 86 municipal and state agencies. The worst-performing agency was the NYPD, which received the grade of “F” for its resistance to disclosing information about itself.
The NYPD does not exist to keep people safe from anything, they are only interested in these “drone sightings” insofar as it could be used to justify even more draconian policing policies and illegal surveillance and violation of people’s rights to privacy.
A good chunk of the NYPD would love to ethnically cleanse NYC if they could and I really wish that was cynical hyperbole but it really isn’t the NYPD just knows they couldn’t quite get away with it yet.
I don’t know who you are more afraid of that is more prone to systematic violence against and subjugation of innocent people?
I think that’s a stretch. It’s easy to call people fascists and Nazis and cops absolutely are a huge part of that but to claim individuals are carrying ideals of ethnic cleansing is a huge leap. Meanwhile there are genuinely people in the world, a lot of them, who would do far more harm than the NYPD.
If this is a lone actor or a group terrorist group plotting, an enemy state, even if it is covert mission my own government or a friendly government is doing I might still trust the NYPD over them. I’ve literally gone to NYC and spoken to individual officers on multiple occasions. ACAB absolutely but your logic isn’t sound bro
Yeah I know these are prison guards but it is all part of the same elegantly designed machine of violence, just a different part of the loop.
Sure we can disguise the cleansing in hate for the homeless and poor and call it a coincidence that the system specifically targets minorities in a dizzying variety of ways but shrugs
Besides, you ever talk to a cop when they think you are part of the same club as them? Don’t underestimate violence and the passionate belief driving that violence just because it has been systematically normalized.
Again ACAB but Rikers isn’t owned by the NYPD and although both operate under the governing bodies of New York it doesn’t really gain that much ground in this discussion because the point is the NYPD will not do what Russia would do. Again, if this is a foreign adversary I do in fact trust the NYPD over them. I trust a rabid guard dog over a polar bear that is mad at me, especially if the polar bear is probably also mad at the guard dog too. The enemy of my enemy and all that.
What makes you so sure people from other places are that much more likely to want to hurt you than people from this very country?
I don’t think you are actually paying attention if you think that, what is far more likely is rightwing violence will hurt you here and the “foreign adversaries” who are rich and conservative who you are so afraid of will look on and say “hmm I like that, we are going to have to try that in this country!” and they will call up the very people you seem to think will protect you from those people and talk shop about how to best subjugate, oppress and erase you, me and every other unwanted person.
Your understanding of the world has things totally locked into a nationalistic framing which is useless in this moment for understanding how violence is actually likely to reach out and touch you.
What makes you so sure people from other places are that much more likely to want to hurt you than people from this very country?
Because I literally met and interacted with the people you’re saying are trying to erase me lol. And originally your first comment is just a stray shot out of your ass.
Lol the fuck?
https://bridge.georgetown.edu/research/factsheet-the-nypd-muslim-surveillance-and-mapping-program/
Whoever or whatever is behind this drone thing (if there is any substance to it at all) scares me far less than the NYPD. I would rather deal with literal actual extraterrestial aliens from another planet than the NYPD, fuck the NYPD.
The NYPD is an organization of violence not an institution of public safety and it has grown out of control like a cancer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Department_corruption_and_misconduct
The NYPD does not exist to keep people safe from anything, they are only interested in these “drone sightings” insofar as it could be used to justify even more draconian policing policies and illegal surveillance and violation of people’s rights to privacy.
I’d rather deal with the NYPD than idk maybe an aggressive foreign actor especially one that wants me ethically cleansed.
ACAB sure but lol
A good chunk of the NYPD would love to ethnically cleanse NYC if they could and I really wish that was cynical hyperbole but it really isn’t the NYPD just knows they couldn’t quite get away with it yet.
I don’t know who you are more afraid of that is more prone to systematic violence against and subjugation of innocent people?
I think that’s a stretch. It’s easy to call people fascists and Nazis and cops absolutely are a huge part of that but to claim individuals are carrying ideals of ethnic cleansing is a huge leap. Meanwhile there are genuinely people in the world, a lot of them, who would do far more harm than the NYPD.
If this is a lone actor or a group terrorist group plotting, an enemy state, even if it is covert mission my own government or a friendly government is doing I might still trust the NYPD over them. I’ve literally gone to NYC and spoken to individual officers on multiple occasions. ACAB absolutely but your logic isn’t sound bro
Rikers just entered the chat
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna182076
Yeah I know these are prison guards but it is all part of the same elegantly designed machine of violence, just a different part of the loop.
Sure we can disguise the cleansing in hate for the homeless and poor and call it a coincidence that the system specifically targets minorities in a dizzying variety of ways but shrugs
Besides, you ever talk to a cop when they think you are part of the same club as them? Don’t underestimate violence and the passionate belief driving that violence just because it has been systematically normalized.
Again ACAB but Rikers isn’t owned by the NYPD and although both operate under the governing bodies of New York it doesn’t really gain that much ground in this discussion because the point is the NYPD will not do what Russia would do. Again, if this is a foreign adversary I do in fact trust the NYPD over them. I trust a rabid guard dog over a polar bear that is mad at me, especially if the polar bear is probably also mad at the guard dog too. The enemy of my enemy and all that.
“Again, if this is a foreign adversary”
What makes you so sure people from other places are that much more likely to want to hurt you than people from this very country?
I don’t think you are actually paying attention if you think that, what is far more likely is rightwing violence will hurt you here and the “foreign adversaries” who are rich and conservative who you are so afraid of will look on and say “hmm I like that, we are going to have to try that in this country!” and they will call up the very people you seem to think will protect you from those people and talk shop about how to best subjugate, oppress and erase you, me and every other unwanted person.
Your understanding of the world has things totally locked into a nationalistic framing which is useless in this moment for understanding how violence is actually likely to reach out and touch you.
Uh huh…
Because I literally met and interacted with the people you’re saying are trying to erase me lol. And originally your first comment is just a stray shot out of your ass.
Roll my God damn mother flipping eyes bro