Context
- List of instances defederating from Threads, the Meta microblogging platform: https://fedipact.veganism.social/
- At the moment, Threads have incomplete federation with Fediverse microblogging instances: https://fediversereport.com/last-week-in-fediverse-ep-86/
- Another meme about Threads: https://feddit.uk/post/18194873
- Threads does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Piefed)
- Threads could work with the microblogging part of Mbin
The main arguments for people to defederate are
- “Embrace, extend, and extinguish” strategy: https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html
- A potential federation with Threads (should Thread decide to implement it) would overwhelm Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed with millions of users (compared to the 40k monthly current active users), transforming those platforms into a threaded version of Facebook
- Defederating preventively costs nothing
LW stance: https://lemmy.world/post/1274909?scrollToComments=true
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Oh neat, guess that’s another reason I’d like to pick out another instance
I have yet to see any threads content anyway.
Exactly. I still don’t know what the whole kerfuffle is about.
One concern is that since threads has a massive userbase and similar volume of content, it is basically a full reservoir and when it starts to federate content it will be like the dam bursting. Even if there is a need for a user on lemmy.world to do something to start federating content, like subscribing to communities, but all it would take is a bot that subscribes to a bunch of popular content to both fill the All feed and prompt a massive number of API calls.
If the hardware is up to the task, the other concern is the threads content overwhelming existing communities, and since a bunch of meta content is bot driven and malicious that would be a crazy amount of moderation that is likely needed to keep it from causing issues and driving away the existing userbase.
At the moment, it is more a gesture of support for our micro-blogging cousins but still…
I’m pretty sure LW is trying to be Threads, or at least grow into some version of it. Why is, as you said, a mystery.
Wat?
I tried to provide some context in the OP, what questions do you have?
Thread does not currently federate with link aggregators (Lemmy, Mbin, Piefed)
It federates with MBin, recently Fedia defederated Threads, but before that I could follow and interact with Threads accounts, and it actually worked
Thanks for the clarification
Its possible to convince me to move to another instance if anybody can recommend one with the following:
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Anti-Tankie sentiment/rules/regulation (fuck those fake communists flooding the feed with spam 24/7)
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Fairly active community
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General use instance, not one with a specific agenda
But otherwise I guess I’d probably just stop using lemmy altogether when threads hits World.
Sopuli.xyz has blocked both lemmygrad and hexbear. You can block lemmy.ml in your user settings, that should set you up.
About the active community, not sure what you mean, as exporting and importing your settings would keep you subscribed to the same communities that your current account, and sopuli is large enough to have the same All feed than LW
“fairly active community” in this context means more than just 100 accounts moderated by 1 guy in a basement with a lot of spiders in it
No offense intended to that man and his 100 users, just doesn’t seem like a very good longterm solution. Much of the internet today is transient and impermanent.
No matter what instance you are on, you are most likely to be subscribed to communities on other instances. For example, when I switched instances due to technical issues I ended up subbing to the same or at least a similar list of communities across instances and blocking the same users after a few weeks.
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We gotta avoid meta collecting data on the users of the fediverse.
Bruh you know you can literally just download any lemmy data right now?
That’s why I didn’t mention data collection in the reasons. Everything here can be parsed by thousands of instances. The issue is the EEE, and flooding the platform with millions of users coming from Facebook
Literally all they would have to do is spin up a generic instance with like, one subscriber, federate, and then just kick back and wait. But yeah, fuck threads. .World should de-federate.
A great reminder, that I will never understand how this site works. Isn’t lemmy.world like the main page? That’s what shows up on my Sync app.
Lemmy.world is one of many lemmy instances. Any Lemmy instance will show posts on their “all” page from instances they’re federated with. Generally, you can subscribe to and comment in federated communities.
Depending on your viewer/app, you’ll see the instance following an @ sign. For example, username johndoe1234@sh.itjust.works means that account is on the sh.itjust.works instance. Similar for communities.
May have missed some finer points but that’s generally how it works.
No, .world is not anything like a ‘main page’. It’s just the largest “instance”.
Lemmy isn’t even really a site, it’s more like what email is - a data exchange protocol.
You see mostly .world content because you share that domain, and they’ve “blocked” a lot of other domains.
You can make an account at any-other instance and see a lot of other content. Lemmy.world has “blocked” (defederated) with a lot of instances, so you’re not seeing everything.
Sync is just an app that lets you view your account content (similar to how gmail the app lets you view your email content).
It’s the biggest instance, and the one you signed* up at, so in essence, for you it is. However the content you see there will be made up of not only users and communities from Lemmy.world but also from all the instance they’re federated with. I’m registered elsewhere but you’ll still get this reply.
Edit: i.e. I also use Sync but it says sh.itjust.works
Lemmy is like email, and lemmy.world is like your email provider. Sync is like Outlook
