• knightly the Sneptaur@pawb.social
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    2 months ago

    The electoral college and our first-past-the-post system is a huge part of the problem. With ranked choice voting we would have more choices for candidates and progressives and socialists would have a better shot.

    You’re not wrong, but it’s irrelevant so long as we live under parties that benefit from this status quo. There’s no way to get ranked choice voting without overthrowing the two-party system first. Things will have to get worse before they can get better.

    We have been a democracy since the founding of our country. Consider reading a US history book to learn more. Our democracy is flawed.

    You seem to have contradicted yourself. Are we a democracy or are we flawed? If the system is structured so badly that fascists can claim totalizing power, can you really call the system democratic?

    It didn’t have to be this way. We could have chosen socialism

    “We” don’t get to make that choice. The choices available are selected by capitalists and it has been that way since this country was founded.

    • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 months ago

      There’s no way to get ranked choice voting without overthrowing the two-party system first.

      There has been some progress in this regard. So it is possible to change systems.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranked-choice_voting_in_the_United_States

      Are we a democracy or are we flawed?

      These aren’t mutually exclusive. Humans are imperfect. The systems we build are imperfect as a result. People have been measuring democracies on a scale from 0 to 10.

      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/democracy-index-eiu?time=2023

      The choices available are selected by capitalists and it has been that way since this country was founded.

      The US was made by wealthy land and slave owners. The compromises in the document reflect that. After WWII, McCarthyism did a lot to undermine communism, socialism, and the left in general in the US. It laid the ground work for the neoliberals who would come later to fill the minds of Americans with their ideology. The right in this country has been working to undermine the left for a long time. Blaming everything on democracy really misappropriates blame here. Especially when it’s Republicans who have been working to undermine democracy.

      Things will have to get worse before they can get better.

      Things only get better by making them better. What accelerationism misunderstands is that things haven’t got better in the past because bad things happened to people. It’s that things have gotten better because people learned from the bad things that happened to them and then used that knowledge to make things better. If we let things get bad and no one learns anything, it won’t do any good. We have to educate people. And we can do that without things getting worse.

      As it is now we might learn a lot of lessons from the rise of christo-fascism. But we may not be able to act on them. These election results have truly fucked us. Fascists might end up killing us all with fossil fuel emissions. But of course billionaires will survive in their apocalypse bunkers.