The attack on the 50-year-old executive—allegedly by the now 27-year-old Luigi Mangione—immediately sparked an outpouring of public fury not at the gunman, but at UnitedHealthcare itself.

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    However, while it’s understandable for consumers to get angry at their health insurers, it is also important to remember “there is no easy answer” for such companies as they navigate costs and care, Jonathan Gruber, a professor of economics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, told Newsweek.

    There is a very easy answer. Eliminate the health insurance companies. They do not improve healthcare and serve only to increase costs by extracting profit.

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      The profit motive does not belong in any industry of necessity.

      The capitalists have metastasized into education, Healthcare, and bastardized any and all forms of food to maximize profit at the expense of their humanity.

      They’ve brought us to our knees, and before the capitalists are done, death will be a mercy to most.

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      They are a wholly unnecessary middleman extracting a rent where none is due. They slow down the speed of care and needlessly complicate a very simple system.

      It should not exist. They’re the landlords of medicine. Entirely pointless and nothing more than a detriment to the profession, service, and function of healthcare no matter if its picking up a z-pack for bronchitis or having a tumor removed. Healthcare insurance serves no purpose whatsoever.

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        A single, (truly) non profit insurer that has no ability to deny coverage and is fully funded by income tax could have an administrative purpose.

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      We gotta take anything we read on media sites like Newsweek with a shovel of salt. Newsweek is a shadow of its former self.

      That said, yeah United’s stock evaluation took a huge hit. But it’s still higher than it’s been in decades. It’s likely to turn around as these kinds of companies have a lot of tricks for restructuring and continuing business as usual. We have a long way to go before we see these kinds of companies actually fear the people they’re supposed to be serving.

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        Honestly don’t trust Newsweek at all. Kept on promoting the idea that Biden totally had the election, comforting lies is all they provide and I don’t read the news to feel at ease.

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    Bold of the writers to chose the word “Recover” as related to Luigi. Could have been something like, “United Healthcare Struggles to Resume Exploitation After Luigi” or “Unites Healthcare Struggles to Interfere with Healthcare after Lugi”.

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    The United Healthcare AI that killed your grandmother and mine is still at large.

    We can talk about Luigi’s alleged crime once this systemic violence is deposed.

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      AI is just like the “illegals” that “stole” your job. Profits dictated that the company hire someone for much less than you. AI didn’t invent itself to steal your job. AI didn’t wake up and decide it’s gonna let Grandma die in the nursing home. The company let AI do it, set the guidelines in which AI would come to that conclusion and ultimately pointed AI at every customer and hit the on button.

      Please don’t manufacture this as an AI crisis. It’s a healthcare crisis caused by greedy people. End of story.

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    I can’t even start to understand how a healthcare company has a stock price. They should be nonprofits to start with.

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      And this brings up the other thing they are struggling to recover from. They were sued by blackrock for taking care of people too well.

      Blackrock, that investment firm that you can’t even divest from because your pension is tied to it. Which really peels back some layers on root cause analysis. Because blackrock and vanguard get management of this money pretty much by default when there is an institutional pension they have fuck you money. As in fuck you, it’s my money till 40 years in the future.

      The Healthcare United CEO is just middle management. All he’s doing is taking orders in hopes doing that enough means his company survives. He he doesn’t then the private equity firms and banks just fund the guy who will.

      Larry Fink is the real management.

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        They weren’t sued for helping take care of people. It was a misleading headline. Theyre getting sued for failing to commit to taking care of stock holders.

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      Literally murdering. They were asking healthcare providers at assisted living facilities to change elderly patients’ records to add DNRs that the patients hadn’t authorized.

      Literally altering medical records to make sure people die instead of costing money.

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    Interesting wording in That headline. Associating guilt in what to most people will see as a positive thing.

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      Luigi broke the propaganda machine.

      A lot of reddit finally accepted that their darling is a heavily censored space and its primary goal is narrative shaping operations. Reddit and media as a whole failed this one and many people got woke on the issue of heavy censorship which they called “modding”

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        reddit immediately tried to censor the news like 2 weeks when he shot the guy, i was pointing out how it just suddenly vanished.

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    The shooting “tarnished UnitedHealthcare’s reputation and disrupted its operational stability,” Ge Bai, a professor of health policy and management at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, Maryland, told Newsweek.

    No, it did not, don’t pin that one on Luigi.

    UnitedHealthcare did that all on their lonesome, by profiteering on people’s pain and suffering.

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      “In a statement today, interim CEO of Cockroach Inc. expressed extreme displeasure that Luigi shined a light on their roaches nest for others to see.”

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      The shooting helped people realise just how united they are in their justified anger

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        This! The shooting allowed people to start counting themselves, and it looks like UH haters are a much bigger crowd than shareholders.

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      This Luigi didn’t do it thing is so odd, and yes I’ve seen the photos, you would be amazed at how body hairs vanish depending on camera type, lighting and resolution.

      I for one am of the proud opinion that Luigi did it and he’s a god damn hero for it. He did it and praise be to Luigi, i wish more of us had his courage

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        And I am a proud believer that he is innocent, that police officer absolutely planted a gun in his backpack, with their body camera off.

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            Did you miss the Marvel Studios-produced perp walk starring recently embattled but mysteriously unhooked NYC mayor Eric Adams?

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            That requires having the real killer.

            If they dont’t, pinning the whole thing on an innocent guy and making a sbow out of how they crack down on him absolutely makes sense, in the evil machiavellian way that it is.

            The goal is to discourage more people from doing it because they know that they are weaker than even a small set of the population organizing a resistance against them.

            Authoritarians, and you have to be one to be capitalist, live in constant fear of the ordinary people and they will keep escalating violence as they fear dissent to grow.

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            That’s because you don’t appear to understand what this is about.

            This ain’t about the killer, this is about sending a message to the plebs. Attack on one of their own will result in owner class using full power of the state. They are letting us know they are in charge, public opinion is making them uncomfortable and they are acting erratic. At this point I am assuming that the police botched the evidence spooks collected for them.

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                Then why was he yelling “It’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people and the lived experience!” on his way to arraignment? What’s your mom’s opinion on the matter…?

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                  That to me sounds like a man justifying what he did. Generally “im innocent! Help! Im a scapegoat!” Would be what someone would say. Again Luigi himself doesn’t deny he was the shooter. This “nobody was the shooter” conspiracy is so weird. And again, there’s no debating or discussion with someone who’s position is “everything everyone says is a lie and a cover up, except for what me and my beliefs say” It’s very culty, not really based on fact, just emotion and mistrust.

                  Overall my message is , stop shit talking Luigi and trying to claim nothing happened. Instead exalt the man for his courage and for his determination. You guys are trying to make him look like a little bitch

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                This is has nothing to do with believing. The state has to prove he did it to a jury and they need the public to accept the verdict. They have done neither so far.

                Luigi pled not guilty, wtf is u talking about?

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        Makes a ghost gun. Keeps it, doesn’t dispose of it. Walks around in public with said gun on his person, as well as a “manifesto.” Gets “caught” because of his fake id that a McDonald’s cashier clocked.

        Yeah. He totally did it.