This instance has defederated from hexbear.net for violating our rules against propaganda as outlined in our Terms of Service. If you are unfamiliar, federation means two servers sync and host each other’s content. Defederation stops us from syncing their content to our server.

  • Corgana@startrek.website
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    15 days ago

    The concept of defederation is literally the single most important core feature differentiating the Fediverse from centralized social media. I find it interesting that you feel employing it to be antithetical to the concept of federated networks.

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      15 days ago

      Yes it was and its misapplication in targeting the same group repeatedly is laying bare its flaws and that’s why it doesn’t work

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        15 days ago

        Hexbear is still online and available to anyone who wants to read the content so I’m confused as to what point you’re trying to make. If you want users to be forced to interact with other users that’s what Reddit is for.

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          15 days ago

          defederation is creating bubbles with communities that have little to no activity & content and that’s going to drive away more people than any tankie ever could.

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            15 days ago

            Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

            Perhaps most groups don’t want to associate with fascist apologists.

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              15 days ago

              Could it be that the behavior of hexbears created the bubble?

              how so?

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                13 days ago

                There is a common debate on free speech in the US over of a platform should be punished for enforcing decorum on their users. Typically, it comes from the far right MAGA crowd griping when places kick them off for doing far right MAGA things, posting hateful content and persistently attacking anyone outside their bubble.

                Hexbear is the tankie equivalent of something like ‘truth social’ or ‘gab’ who welcomes their type of extremists.

                An individuals right to free speech does NOT meant an instance admin is compelled to amplify their message and help propagate it. This was argued over on every social media platform already and the only one to unban the extremists they banned in any quantity was after Elon took over Twitter.

                Reap what you sow…

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              15 days ago

              Literally how it was designed! I will never understand the people who think “free speech” means everyone else has to be forced to listen to them.

              • Luci@lemmy.ca
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                15 days ago

                I want problem communities to be isolated from the larger population

                • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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                  15 days ago

                  defederation doesn’t do this. it was mean to; but it doesn’t work as it was intended.

                  doing so only excludes your community from the main group chat that everyone else can see, which empowers them over you in addition to creating those inactive/no-content subs for your community.

                  so nothing about this situation is working as designed.

                  and to answer your other glib comment: star trek matters to me so i don’t want to see this instance wither away from lack of content. that’s why i’m trying despite the toxic attempts to shoot the messenger.

      • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        14 days ago

        If that same group would stop repeatedly evading bans and defeds then it wouldn’t keep happening, but since tankies’ entire existence is predicated on proselytizing to unwilling “heretics” and being as rude as they possibly can while doing it because, like the mormons, it isn’t about actually getting converts it’s about getting people to hate them so they can feed their persecution complex, here we are.