Is it toxic to not like a poorly written character? I have absolutely nothing against the actress and wouldn’t ever wish harm on an actor/actress just because of a character they portrayed. Are we not allowed to have differing opinions on art?
I would accept obnoxious. I don’t think it is obnoxious to add a comment to a forum, but I understand that viewpoint. I just think it’s a far way from toxic.
Let’s understand the word “toxic” though. We use the word “toxic” when a relationship or subject has become so radioactive that anything going into it comes out bad, even if innocently intended. Hating on Tilly is pretty toxic now, following an overwhelming amount of pointless hate online. You didn’t create that entire cloud of toxicity with one comment. No one could. But you walked into it. If you just want to innocently express your distaste for this character, you should probably be mad at all the people who made that impossible by flooding the dialogue with mean, stupid hate. Because at this point, making an unqualified swipe at her has gone toxic. If you have something meaningful and critical to say, say it. If you just want to make a jab, yeah, I’m afraid that is toxic now. You can claim you didn’t know, etc but you gotta read the room as it were. Or the room will spell itself out for you, as happened here.
Her being timid wasn’t really the part of her character I didn’t like. The fact that she was timid was her only character flaw was what made her a week character. Like she never struggled other than to accept that she was capable of doing things.
It was in the hot feed… It’s not like I did a ton of “wandering”. One post is hardly “loudly” declaring anything. What’s louder is all the people jumping to conclusions about who I am as a person and as a fan from the one comment.
No, I think you forgot about the people are allowed to have differing opinions about things rule. Generally I love Trek. I did not like Discovery or Picard (I did hear Picard got better in later episodes), but I like everything else. The character Tilly was one of the specific things I didn’t like about Discovery. Life isn’t a weird dichotomy where people love or hate everything. People aren’t only super fans or toxic fans. There is a wide swatch of people in between. As a Trek fan I would think you would be especially aware of all the gray area in between. I don’t know what drives you to attack me as a person for stating an opinion on a fictional character… I hope you get over that some day.
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Is it toxic to not like a poorly written character? I have absolutely nothing against the actress and wouldn’t ever wish harm on an actor/actress just because of a character they portrayed. Are we not allowed to have differing opinions on art?
Well, it is somewhat obnoxious to show up and say “hey! I’m here and I don’t know what I’m talking about!”
I would accept obnoxious. I don’t think it is obnoxious to add a comment to a forum, but I understand that viewpoint. I just think it’s a far way from toxic.
Let’s understand the word “toxic” though. We use the word “toxic” when a relationship or subject has become so radioactive that anything going into it comes out bad, even if innocently intended. Hating on Tilly is pretty toxic now, following an overwhelming amount of pointless hate online. You didn’t create that entire cloud of toxicity with one comment. No one could. But you walked into it. If you just want to innocently express your distaste for this character, you should probably be mad at all the people who made that impossible by flooding the dialogue with mean, stupid hate. Because at this point, making an unqualified swipe at her has gone toxic. If you have something meaningful and critical to say, say it. If you just want to make a jab, yeah, I’m afraid that is toxic now. You can claim you didn’t know, etc but you gotta read the room as it were. Or the room will spell itself out for you, as happened here.
Nah, I can be mad at the toxic people and the people over reacting. Both are too extreme reactions to each other.
Well it’s a different show with different writers and she isn’t playing the timid and anxious character she was in early Discovery.
Her being timid wasn’t really the part of her character I didn’t like. The fact that she was timid was her only character flaw was what made her a week character. Like she never struggled other than to accept that she was capable of doing things.
Wandering the internet to loudly declare your disinterest in things?
Besides time-consuming (it’s a big Fediverse, so you must not get a lot of sleep)…yeah, kind of toxic.
It was in the hot feed… It’s not like I did a ton of “wandering”. One post is hardly “loudly” declaring anything. What’s louder is all the people jumping to conclusions about who I am as a person and as a fan from the one comment.
Like jumping to conclusions about a show you haven’t watched based on one headline?
Nope, I’ve seen others and have seen reviews. But, you just made another assumption about me.
True, I did forget the Must Reply To Everything in the Hot Feed rule.
No, I think you forgot about the people are allowed to have differing opinions about things rule. Generally I love Trek. I did not like Discovery or Picard (I did hear Picard got better in later episodes), but I like everything else. The character Tilly was one of the specific things I didn’t like about Discovery. Life isn’t a weird dichotomy where people love or hate everything. People aren’t only super fans or toxic fans. There is a wide swatch of people in between. As a Trek fan I would think you would be especially aware of all the gray area in between. I don’t know what drives you to attack me as a person for stating an opinion on a fictional character… I hope you get over that some day.
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