Skate players were explicitly told map areas would not be “locked behind a paywall”

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    11 hours ago

    We’re now expected to rent imaginary spaces for our characters to play the game we already purchased in?

    Is advocating people be burned at the stake against the ToS here? Because I’m advocating the fuck out of that.

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      Nobody purchased Skate, it is free to play.

      They just promised not to lock locations behind a paywall, which the executives decided to change.

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      I see a clear correlation between the decline of tar-and-feathers and riding people out on a rail and the rise of terrible business practices.

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    This is a great example for the moral justifications of piracy. The bytes for the maps are on your hard drive, why the fuck should you not be allowed to play on them? When someone playing a pirated copy has a better experience than someone on a bought licensed copy something’s not right.

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    People are still playing EA games after the take over by Saudis/Jared Kushner??? Sorry, I feel no empathy for these gamers.

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    EA literally had one job:

    • Make Skate 2 but with a new area and updated graphics.

    And EA went and fucked it up being greedy. And they wonder why Steam is killing it.

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      I don’t know why EA would be relevant to anyone for the past 20+ years, but here we are.

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          10 hours ago

          The fun part is…I tried the newest one on game pass recently. Aside from roster updates it’s the same game I bought on disc 20 years ago

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            lol if it was the same game from 20 years ago itd actually be pretty good. that would be madden 05 era which some say is the peak of madden

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        Well, I was looking forward to a new Mass Effect, but playing something like that made by Kushner and the Saudis would probably make tears in reality. Like, I’m pretty sure the paradox will make serious issues.

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      Skate is free to play, nothing was bought.

      Apparently the cosmetic microtransactions didn’t make enough money. So now they are putting locations behind a paywall.

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      18 hours ago

      In American-style neo-liberalism, everything must have a price tag. If it doesn’t generate a profit, it can’t exist.

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        16 hours ago

        Then people should stop buying, otherwise nothing will change. People complained about Nintendo switch 2, yet they bought it.

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          This is actually good advice… in isolation. Encouraging people to spend their money more wisely can bring awareness to an issue but it ultimately does little to implement change. Sure, you and I (and the Fediverse as a whole) might be hyper-vigilant about these kind of things but the average consumer isn’t. Continuing with your Nintendo example, Nintendo has decades of brand recognition and a zealous fanbase to satisfy the demand. An eager gaming press will gladly take free hardware from Nintendo for positive coverage.

          Real change won’t happen until the tap is turned off, so to speak. These companies are taking advantages of gaps in the law that permit them to get away with this. Antitrust law in the US dates back to a time when steam-powered trains were still common and the last breakup involved a telephone company. When AT&T was broken up, the home computer (desktop in modern parlance) was just starting to take off.

          So, yes, we should spend our money elsewhere when we see this kinds of corporate abuses but until you starve the beast, keep expecting these kinds of behaviors.

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          People aren’t playing or paying for stuff in Skate. The player count drop off has been substantial.

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      20 hours ago

      I understand the sentiment here but let’s note that you do not go buy Skate. because it’s free to play.

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    My brain just shuts off when I read stuff like this.

    Man, I dunno. Fuck AAA gaming, I’ll go play something else.

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        Games are a modern media and I think suffer from a lot of modern engagement mechanics.

        We need to stop viewing them as a constant stream of “new content” and more as an established library.

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          Absolutely the problem. They’ve stopped trying to make fun and started trying to exploit psychological weaknesses and hijack our internal reward systems to rinse us of both time and money.

          Fun is no longer the driving factor, and it makes me feel not quite angry or nauseous, but somewhere around those emotions.

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            They’ve stopped trying to make fun and started trying to exploit psychological weaknesses and hijack our internal reward systems to rinse us of both time and money

            Exactly, and the fact that Jeffrey Epstein was pro microtransactions really tells you the kind of scum we’re dealing with here

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          I shifted to that view a long time ago. I have a selection of “classics” I play on rotation and I add a few indies or modern ports every now and then.

          The multiplay scene went in a direction I don’t intend to follow. Some old friends are thinking about hosting a retro lan party, but I’m going to make it clear that I’m walking if they try sneaking in any modern shit.

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    That’s on part of EA, look at sims 4, you have to spend 1000€ to buy all DLCs.

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        20 hours ago

        Add Mass Effect, Dead Space and Star Wars Jedi series…

        But yeah I wish all of these were DRM free, without any online connection and on GOG.

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          I only bought Split Fiction because it didn’t come with the EA launcher. It seems to be a recent decision of theirs to not include it on some games on Steam, but they’re not doing it retroactively. It Takes Two I played on Game Pass for a dollar, because I’m not willing to put up with EA’s additional DRM.

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            It Takes Two actually removed the EA App in a patch a while back.

            I think they allow studios they only publish for and don’t own like Hazelight the freedom to remove the EA App DRM now, but EA won’t pay for the dev time for their back catalogue.

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              Thanks for the link, though the store page does still say it requires an EA account. Is that just outdated? Dragon Age: The Veilguard also doesn’t have an EA app requirement, so this is a thing they’re doing with studios they own too.

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                IIRC it still requires an EA account for online play, but not if you play offline.

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            18 hours ago

            I have it takes two, played the whole thing on steam without EA launcher. Was on my steam deck, so maybe linux dodged that somehow?

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              I believe it’s still running in the background and makes it an extra pain in the ass to play without internet. I ran into that one with Jedi: Fallen Order when trying to play on the train (I only paid $4 for it and still felt ripped off). The store page still lists that it’s there. It’s why whenever I get around to the Dragon Age games, I can play the first one on GOG and the fourth one on Steam (no EA launcher), but unless something changes, the best option appears to be pirating 2 and 3.

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      EA gives their studios the ability to decide their own revenue models.

      This change likely came because they weren’t as profitable as predicted so they had targets to make up for.

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    An important detail is that this rental option is paid for in grind currency, not paid currency. Yes, “for now”.

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      Yeah, that’s just to normalise rentable levels. Once it has been begrudgingly accepted, there’ll be one that requires premium currency. Never buy EA.

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        You’ll still be able to buy them with ingame currency, but itll be days worth of farming or BEST VALUE 4.99.

        They’ll still be able to hide behind an ethical “no mtx required” label.

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          Why days worth of farming? To help give the player a sense of “pride and accomplishment” of course.

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    I still have Skate 3 installed on my Xbox for those times when I just want to chill for an hour. It makes me a little sad when I see what its become nowadays…