So I only watched Episode 01; I wasn’t impressed at all, I am debating whether to watch episode 02.

I don’t at all mind writers/authors developing new directions/concepts based on an existing franchise base. I really enjoyed Aliens: Phalanx, even thought it had massive flaws, but the world building was engaging and the pace was good.

That being said E01 comes off as a somewhat generic, “made for streaming” series adaption of the Alien world. Alien: Romulus on the other hand combined “modern sensibilities” with the classical retro-futuristic canon of the alien universe.

Perhaps it’s too early to judge, but I feel there is going to be a large YA-focus to this series (kids in adult bodies). Aliens: Phalanx was also very heavy on YA tropes, but IMO it had other things going for it to compensate.

I didn’t feel any tension or dread in the first episode. Some stuff was happening I didn’t feel like caring.

I will probably watch E02 to see if it gets better, but I am not getting my hopes up.

EDIT: E01 is 7.8 on and E02 is 8.0 on IMDB; no wonder I always got the feeling that series rating are always heavily inflated.

  • misericordiae@literature.cafe
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    2 days ago

    So far, while I think it’s alright as its own thing, it’s not really what I expected or wanted from an Alien series. The Peter Pan stuff is sooo heavy handed, and a lot of the tension gets lost when so many of the characters are synth-adjacent, imo. I’ll watch the whole season, but I’d be surprised if my opinion drastically changes. Morrow (the cyborg) is cool, at least.

    I am interested the criteria Weyland-Yutani had for selecting specimens to bring back, and what kind of worlds those specimens lived on. Like, the eyeball is cool (kinda generic, but cool), but it implies an ecosystem that includes a sufficient number of species with Earth-like eyeballs for it to survive. So why not bring back some of those other (presumably less dangerous) species, too?

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      2 days ago

      It will be interesting to see if there is information at all about the ecosystem(s) involved. I have a feeling this part will be superficial at best, but let’s see how things play out.

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    Watched E02; it’s largely more of the same; if anything there are now even more lame elements to the concept compared to E01.

    They put in too much effort into making it edgy, quirky and YA-compatible with the Peter Pan stuff.

    In principle, I think the main concept (alien infested ship crash landing on earth) is solid and even the Peter Pan stuff could be fine.

    The problem is the execution. The kids act like generic types in a high production sci-fi action streaming show. It would be far more interesting and unique if there was an element disorientation and introspection (as a prelude to their rebellion).

    I couldn’t take the Kirsh character seriously. I can’t be the only one who thought he was (unintentionally) funny.

    The boy trillionaire character is pretty unconvincing and reeks of lazy attempts at edginess. Caricatures are fine, but you need to set the tone of the story to make it work.

    I will probably keep watching, but I am going to change how I approach the series. Treating the series as an unintentional parody with sci-fi Peter Pan in a Disney executive’s lobotomization of a dystopian cyberpunk that just happens to infested by Alien seems the right way forward.

    I just hope there will be (unintentional) comedy.

    P.S. I will happily admit that I was wrong and that I am a overly picky snob (not true, I like the Maze Runner series) if it gets better in the subsequent episodes. It’s not happening!

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    I didn’t care about the characters.

    The synth “kids” only act like kids when it’s funny, otherwise they are like disciplined employees/soldiers.

    The MC being able to control machines with psychic powers is lazy story telling.

    The e02, some characters clearly have plot armour. That doesn’t make for a good entry in the Alien franchise.

    It’s weak.

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    3 days ago

    Ironically Romulus was made for streaming before being given a few extra dollars to go theatrical

    I enjoyed the first two episodes, but I feel like it could down the same holes as covenant, focusing too much of the synthetic people, which writers keep feeling they need to expand upon, but I will give it a chance. I have loved the retrofutrism matching the original alien tech - which is something I loved about Romulus and Isolation

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    3 days ago

    Pretty solid start. Felt like the original movie in tone and there was just the right amount of the xenomorph in each episode. That eye thing is fucking awesome.

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    3 days ago

    The xenomorphs look good.

    Just kinda bored with the cast outside of Oliphant. I don’t care what happens to any of them. At all.

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    I feel like i am going to watch the whole series, though I may wait for a few more episodes to release. It is a fun take on the world that somehow has managed to maintain the claustrophobia of the original films while being set on earth. I assume the scope will expand as the series progresses.

    The heavy Disney influence (direct clips from Peter Pan and Ice Age) is a bit off-putting, and makes the series feel a bit confused. We are in a futuristic world that is owned by 6 major companies, we have space flight, synthetic humans, and now consciousness transplants, yet our biggest cultural touchstones are a 1953 animated film, and the fourth ice age movie? Do kids today watch either of those films?

    My other concern is that the series is going to have to keep explaining how our cast aren’t being slaughtered by the xenomorph. In a film, Ripley only has to survive for 2 hours. An 8 ep series is a bigger ask. Hermit has already run into the xeno three times in two episodes, and each time the killing machine who was all blades and teeth just second before switches to ‘throw the protagonist gently across the room’. Even the conclusion of E02 sees him pushed off a ledge where any lesser character would have a bladed tail through their chest.

    I am giving the series the benefit of the doubt that these two eps are just set-up, and will give the rest of the series a chance. Despite my concerns, I did enjoy the characters and their relationships, and the story being set up seems like classic Alien storytelling.

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      3 days ago

      Agreed with all your points. The show would be elevated by taking a “Game of Thrones” approach - aka no character is safe from being killed off. They’ve made it really obvious who’s ““safe”” and it takes the tension away.

      Overall, it’s a good start and I’m excited to see more.

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    I’m getting into it, I said somewhere else that it’s always a good idea to give Noah Hawley some time to cook.

    I watched the first episode of Legion and thought it wasn’t for me, left it until a few days before the season 1 finale and then got curious about what I was seeing online and gave it another try and binged the whole first season before waiting impatiently for each new season after that.

    They have done a pretty good job of capturing the 70’s vibe and incorporating a bunch of the 80’s touches that came with Aliens. Ties it in quite nicely with Romulous.

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      3 days ago

      I am a big fan of Fargo, but IMO the strengths of Fargo don’t really translate to a regular scifi series. And this is definitely a regular scifi series, it’s not like a very subtle parody of the concept or some sort of crazy attempt at deconstructing the concept.

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        I guess I am just the type of person who prefers to watch a show before forming an opinion on it. I have definitely been disappointed by genre shows of late, I ended up with severely elevated blood pressure from enduring Wheel of Time, but I am still willing to give things a chance.

        As a corollary to this, I have started avoiding as much pre-release chatter about shows as possible. Not worth all the opinions people form without giving anything a chance.

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          I never watch trailers or read preview articles. Going in I only knew that part of the story involved an alien infested ship crashing on earth and that Hawley was the showrunner (I didn’t necessarily think this was a good thing even though I like Fargo).

          You have a fair point regarding watching the whole thing before making up one’s opinion.

          My counter arguement would be that as per the first two episodes, this is the only Alien production where I just can’t seem to get interested in what’s going on. It’s not engaging.

          I can’t say that about any of the Alien movies, even the theatrical version of Alien3.

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            Hey, no argument needed, if it’s not reaching you that’s fine, I had people tell me Wheel of Time wasn’t an insult to the source material regularly and it didn’t move me at all.

            I have a different take and that’s also perfectly OK and not an argument that should move you at all. I see from your other posts that you are going to try to lower your expectations and just see where it goes, that’s more or less how I took WoT, can’t say it worked out well in that case, but I hope for your sake Alien:Earth turns out far better.

            I wonder if you would scoff that I find it more faithful to the setting so far than Alien:Resurrection?

            PS I count myself as one of the apparently very few people who really didn’t mind Alien³ so much, and simply saw it as a real world example of executive meddling that wouldn’t be out of place in universe.

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    By the end of E02 I was chuffed. I’m interested in seeing more about this take on the Alien universe. And I’m actually glad it isn’t all-and-only about running from and fighting the Xeno. That’d make for maybe 3-4 episodes of material before it got painfully boring.

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      Yeah, I’m quite glad they skipped showing what happened on the ship (for now). I want to eventually know, but the show’s appeal is seeing Aliens on Earth - so skipping the ship’s downfall was the best call.

      Overall, the show is pretty solid. I really like the sense of dread and unease it builds… buuttt it’s bothering me how much plot armor a certain character has - especially when it’s right after showing how efficient the alien can murder.