Nah. I used to respond to these idiotic buzz phrases with detailed and sourced responses. After a while I realized I was either talking to people that had no clue what or how US government works or they were actively engaged in spreading misinformation.
I no longer expend my energy in this manner as it’s clear that people that wake these types of declarations:
“PPP loans were forgiven so why not student loans???”
Are way. Way. Way so far off from policy and any conversation grounded in reality that it doesn’t matter what I say or show.
Really if you make a big claim like that, you should be prepared to explain and defend yourself. Call it a " power play" or gish gallop (it’s not) but own it all the way. Walk us from point A to B. Own it.
You gish galloped by throwing down a bunch of one line responses, and then expecting anyone challenging them to put a disproportionate amount of effort into refuting them.
The power play is just transparent. You treated the conversation as an examination or interrogation, with you as the examiner or judge. You were explicitly asking me things not because they were relevant, but to test my knowledge to see if I was qualified to have a conversation with. That’s a rhetorical tactic to establish dominance and control over the conversation. Of course, you never had to prove your knowledge or qualifications, but I do, because you’re the one in charge - or so you tried to frame it.
I never had any issue answering questions that were directly relevant, or with answering your questions after you answered mine, because then there was no assumption of power or authority. I don’t like such games, but I know how to recognize them and play against them.
I note that you still haven’t provided a single specific, a single indication that you know anything about what you’re talking about. It’s clear that you have neither the interest or ability to address any of my actual points. All you have is calling my qualifications into question and trying to to throw around authority that you do not have.
You love that gish gallop fallacy for some reason. Another thing you guys love is debate bro terms so you can weasel out of answering anything.
Answer the fucking question.
I don’t know what to tell you. You made the silly claim that PPP loans and student debt are equally discharged then when someone pushed back you started crying about gish galloping and “oh no, don’t interrogate me bro, you’re dominating the conversation”. Like holy shit man.
You made the claim. Own it all the way. Walk us from point a to b. How are ppp and student loans the same?
I never claimed anything you’re saying. It doesn’t matter how much you repeat it, it doesn’t make it true. Show me where I said that both loans are “equally discharged,” you literally made that up whole cloth.
If you’re going to keep playing these games, we’re done here.
Nah. I used to respond to these idiotic buzz phrases with detailed and sourced responses. After a while I realized I was either talking to people that had no clue what or how US government works or they were actively engaged in spreading misinformation.
I no longer expend my energy in this manner as it’s clear that people that wake these types of declarations:
Are way. Way. Way so far off from policy and any conversation grounded in reality that it doesn’t matter what I say or show.
Really if you make a big claim like that, you should be prepared to explain and defend yourself. Call it a " power play" or gish gallop (it’s not) but own it all the way. Walk us from point A to B. Own it.
I already explained both of those things.
You gish galloped by throwing down a bunch of one line responses, and then expecting anyone challenging them to put a disproportionate amount of effort into refuting them.
The power play is just transparent. You treated the conversation as an examination or interrogation, with you as the examiner or judge. You were explicitly asking me things not because they were relevant, but to test my knowledge to see if I was qualified to have a conversation with. That’s a rhetorical tactic to establish dominance and control over the conversation. Of course, you never had to prove your knowledge or qualifications, but I do, because you’re the one in charge - or so you tried to frame it.
I never had any issue answering questions that were directly relevant, or with answering your questions after you answered mine, because then there was no assumption of power or authority. I don’t like such games, but I know how to recognize them and play against them.
I note that you still haven’t provided a single specific, a single indication that you know anything about what you’re talking about. It’s clear that you have neither the interest or ability to address any of my actual points. All you have is calling my qualifications into question and trying to to throw around authority that you do not have.
You love that gish gallop fallacy for some reason. Another thing you guys love is debate bro terms so you can weasel out of answering anything.
Answer the fucking question.
I don’t know what to tell you. You made the silly claim that PPP loans and student debt are equally discharged then when someone pushed back you started crying about gish galloping and “oh no, don’t interrogate me bro, you’re dominating the conversation”. Like holy shit man.
You made the claim. Own it all the way. Walk us from point a to b. How are ppp and student loans the same?
I never claimed anything you’re saying. It doesn’t matter how much you repeat it, it doesn’t make it true. Show me where I said that both loans are “equally discharged,” you literally made that up whole cloth.
If you’re going to keep playing these games, we’re done here.
So what was the point of bringing up student loans when talking about PPP loans being forgiven???