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        23 days ago

        I’m a Borderlands fan, but it absolutely isn’t even in the same universe of quality as BG3. Borderlands is dumb, pretty shitty and lost quality with each game. It’s mindless fun, like B movie popcorn flicks.

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            23 days ago

            But that type of fun is something I can get from many other games, making borderlands way less desirable if it’s $80. On the other hand if larian says that their next game is $80, I already know that I won’t find that type of experience anywhere else and I might just splurge.

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            23 days ago

            I would absolutely disagree. Fun, maybe. Mindless fun? No. I’m fine with games that are mindless fun, but it isn’t what all games should strive for. I personally much prefer games that require your focus and consideration.

            Mindless fun is cheap and easy. Making a game that sits in people minds for years is difficult and takes effort, but is much more rewarding. BG3, for example, is anything but mindless, which is why it’s been able to still be in conversations for so long after it released. How much do people talk about Call of Duty, even though it sells like crazy?

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              i hear talk about call of duty all the time, and especially in its heyday it was talked about pretty much everywhere. meanwhile i only hear BG3 talked about online or from my brother who’s currently playing it. so i think you just proved your own self wrong there. CoD and borderlands are 2 game franchises that are already talked about a lot. hell just look at this own post, its about borderlands

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                23 days ago

                People talk about playing CoD. They don’t discuss the game really, and also this is being discussed because it’s news, and also because they’re being greedy and stupid. Again, it isn’t the game being discussed.

                BG3 people talk about the story, the writing, the gameplay, etc. They talk about how the game is something actually made for players, to be enjoyed, not by business people to make money. They talk about the game.

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                  23 days ago

                  i dont get it. talking about playing a game isnt talking about the game? what sense does that make

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              Eh, I wouldn’t say even mindless fun is easy, from what I hear game dev is hard and a lot of effort and hard work can still end up in something unfun. Probably not your intention but I don’t want to devalue the efforts of people who probably want to make something to help other people enjoy a bit, that I probably don’t have the skill to make myself.

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                22 days ago

                I’m a hobbyist game dev, and I have friends in the industry, and yeah it hard to make anything at all. I meant more that it’s easy to conceptualize mindless fun. Implementing either is just as hard really.

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    Look, you can charge whatever you want.

    “Is your game worth $80 to average gamers dealing with (gestures broadly at state of world economy)?”

    That is the question every studio executive needs to ask themselves.

    Given the recent trends in AAA-funded projects, for the most part, that answer is “Oh, hell no.”

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      Exactly. They can charge $200 if they want to but it doesn’t mean people are going to buy at that price. The price point needs to be where people are okay paying for it and I don’t see it happening at $80. Okay, I lied a bit, I see it happening for some games but not for BL4.

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        How do you know for certain without seeing gameplay or trying it? No one knows what’s in the game except the devs.

        What if it’s OG borderlands and there’s no battle pass or microtransactions.

        This is more of a don’t pre order type thing.

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      If Ubisoft can convince themselves that Skull and Bones was the first “quadruple A game” and worth $70, then I doubt most studio execs can pull their heads out their ass for long enough to properly ask themselves that. Studios have completely lost touch with what people actually want and are willing to pay.

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    Yeah, inflation is a thing. But so is increasing volumes in sales with low cost distribution of the product.

    After a game is made now, the only cost is distribution now, and games sell in larger volumes than ever before, making more money than ever before. A game like BL4? Even if they spent $300,000,000 making the game they only need to sell 6,000,000 copies to recoup costs at $70. BL3 has sold 18,000,000 copies. A huge profit, even if most of those sales were on sale prices. BL3 was made and advertised with a 140 million dollar budget.

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      Not to mention, all of the dlc that’ll inevitably be released, following every other borderlands game pattern. Wonder what they’ll try to set the prices of those at

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    I haven’t bought full price games in ages. Games are always released half finished now. Wait six months to a year until it goes on sale and they actually finish the game.

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      The only game I paid full price in recent years was BG3, because it’s worth it, and the people who worked in the game were worth it.

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        yea, but BG3 didn’t release in a complete state. With that said, Larian has delivered on their promise and that’s really a good example of how a AA/AAA title can do early access in a good and healthy way.

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    I’ll buy this when it’s $20 with all expansions in two years.

    It’s not because of Randy Bobandy here, him making an inane, alienating comment is his gimmick at this point and should be expected. It’s t because I found that if I play a game on release I end up playing the worst version of the game. And then I never play expansions because I rarely replay games and I’m not about to play an expansion to a game I haven’t played in a year without replaying the base game again.

    So I buy games a year late, at half the price. I love gaming.