“When I saw they were bigots just like me, I was really excited! Then I found out they’re bigots in other ways too and it made me sad :(”
Fuck you, lady. You wanted me and people like me dead.
These stories often hit me with a pang of pity at first. Poor, dumb, moronic idiots, I just want to hug them and pat them on the head like the snotnosed children they are.
But as you pointed out, they were roped in to this with promises of cruelty toward others. It’s hard to muster up empathy for that.
“I just wanted him to kill the gays!”
Bigots getting what they deserve. Cry me a river.
Right? My immediate thought was “They’re against the ‘LGBTQ Agenda’? I was immediately hooked as I believe people just living their lives is an affront to me and I wanted to hurt others”.
“A weapon I wanted to be built against my countrymen was turned against me too.”
"A weapon I wanted to be built against my countrymen was turned against me too…
…for I, despite all the bullshit, Sovcit rhetoric, am also a countryman."
Bigots getting what they deserve. Cry me a river.
Everyone is getting what this bigot deserves. Don’t gloat. Their misfortune is ours as well.
Yeah, but at least the person causing the problem is feeling the effect of their decisions.
Its like the Ocean Gate sub implosion. Nobody deserves horrible things happening to them, but at least the people that earned the negative effects are receiving them.
Notice how she doesn’t connect the dots that bigotry against one group typically means bigotry amongst many.
First they came for the gays, and I said nothing, because I’m a fucking homophone…
Wait, I don’t think that’s what Niemöller said.
Voted for hate, receive hate. Reap what you sow, you dumb piece of shit.
“I Never thought the man I put in office would come for my family, make me financially struggle and cause so much fear that I carry my passport when I go to the bathroom”
I just thought he would come for your family and make you financially struggle and cause so much fear that you carry your passport when you go to the bathroom
Seriously, drop dead.
The one commonality between all the conservatives I know (both rich and poor) is that they cannot or do not care about anything that isn’t obviously and directly affecting them.
Nah she just thought they would go out in the streets and hunt down the gays, which for a deranged person probably sounds like a pretty good thing
100% all of this. Fuck this soulless hag.
Funny how, as a trans person, I’m always terrified in bathrooms and she voted to basically have me killed.
She only knows an ounce of the fear LGBTQ+ people live under.
One of today’s (unlucky) 10,000 who has never read that one poem. They may come first for somebody you, a fucking bigot, don’t like, but later they’re going to come for you, too.
I swear to god, didn’t even have to read it to know that this person owns a business.
The only “normal” people the media interviews anymore are small business owners.
If you don’t a own a startup, have a registered LLC, or aren’t a published author then you just aren’t a person.
Do you understand what your country is yet? Because “citizens” are chattel and only money makers matter to those in power.
against the LGBTQ agenda
I have a suspicion this person did not use those exact words when she described her position. Also I bet a lot of slurs were used when those campaigners arrived at her shop and convinced her they were “against the LGBTQ agenda”.
“But I wanted the gays to live in fear, not me!!”
Sounds like Sharif don’t like it.
Mock the Kasbah.
She thinks it’s not kosher
This comment deserves 1000 upvotes.
“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”
It also astounds me that people with names like sharif would ever feel safe voting red at all let alone for trump. But no, gotta hurt the gays for… checks notes having literally zero effects on any aspect of my life.
She’s a “business owner” and likely thought she was building her way up to the ruling class while underpaying her immigrant workers. She never thought shit would touch her.
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Yes, indeed. The weapon you voted for is indeed coming to kill you and your people. And the desire and tendency to kill you and your people were abundantly clear the first time around. So the only conclusion to be drawn is that you’re an absolute fucking idiot.
It’s so clear she only cares about herself. If she personally wouldn’t have been bothered by it she would still stand behind her choice. Fuck everyone one else, right? This selfish piece of shit can drop dead for all I care.
Those who want to hurt others who are just trying to live their lives peacefully deserve to be hurt themselves. May she get roughed up and deported by ICE.
Byeeeeeeeeee sounds like maybe there is no LGBTQ agenda where sharif came from
That’s the thing. Find me one nation that is anti-LGBTQ+ and doesn’t have other oppressive policies. Maybe rethink your fucking stance if it’s only supported by dictators, theocrats, and fascists.
Those who want to hurt others … deserve to be hurt themselves.
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May she get [hurt].
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Yes, I stripped out some very important words, but those words don’t actually change the underlying problem: we are each wishing harm befall other people.
She wants people hurt; we want people hurt. We’re all getting exactly what we say we want.
By all means, marvel at her stupidity and bigotry, but please stop short of becoming her.
Oh oh, lets find common ground evwee bwaaddy! Peace and love! Turn the other cheek! Fuck off if you think that works. We have been pursuing that for decades. Reconciliation requires a sincere seeking of truth. It’s not in them, and will never will be for most.
“Becoming her,” would be attacking her because of where she was born, or skin color, or religion, or sexuality. We should attack her intolerance.
I don’t care if they are now naturalized citizens. They lied on any oath of loyalty to our constitution. They deserve the ICE treatment. They are a part of the world’s population that will succumb to strong men. They are those whom have enabled and carried out genocides throughout history. I have been them. I was raised like them. I know them.
If 1/3 of the world’s population cannot abide by social contracts of tolerance, then they should destroyed.
We are not becoming like them. We have to hit the bully in the face. The difference is that many of us will be completely traumatized by what we had to do to stop the bullying. We will weep and use our emotional pain to design better institutions and futures. Will they? Fuck no they won’t.
“Becoming her,” would be attacking her because of where she was born, or skin color, or religion, or sexuality. We should attack her intolerance.
Parent comment wasn’t attacking her intolerance. Parent comment was wishing her harm.
Furthermore: “Religion” should not be a protected class.
They deserve the ICE treatment.
As are you: You are wishing harm on her, not on her intolerance. This is the exact distinction I was trying to highlight.
I want her to wake up. I have heard too many accounts like hers. Those accounts are depressing, because nearly 100% of them expressed that they would still support the politicians that harmed them.
As far as religion, I’d prefer if it didn’t exist, but I will tolerate people’s delusions if they don’t cause intolerance and harm to others. It is not inherent like skin color, but it is does create classes that get targeted by intolerant classes.
At some point, we must harm the intolerant by depriving them of liberty, or life. We have been entreating and begging for them to not be this way. Our “want” to hurt them is the culmination of our frustration and understanding of what their intolerance leads to. There is no fucking paradox here. That fury that we are feeling is the natural impulse to survive or die.
Oh the downvotes you’ll get from not wishing ill on others.
Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement.
Sure, the person above you only wanted them to get a dose of misfortune, but it still seems relevant to me.
The opposite of stupidity isn’t just the opposite stupidity.
She wishes harm on people just living their lives. I wish harm on those that wish harm on others. We are not the same.
Punch Nazis.
I will allow you only those tools you give to the Nazis currently in charge. What are you going to let them use against us?
Look, a year ago, I’d agree with the point you’re trying to make. Unfortunately, the time for playing nicely to avoid escalation has passed.
“Oh no, they’re disappearing people without due process. We better silently protest or else maybe they’ll start doing even worse things!” is not the move
I don’t think you understand my point: what part of your argument justifies ICE bringing harm to this woman? Do you support ICE actions? Do you support something these Nazis want to do?
Thomas Paine understood the problem.
He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
Karl Popper’s philosophy calls for directly and actively suppressing the people you and I deem “intolerant”. The fundamental problem with his philosophy is that the Nazis are already in charge. Any method you use to suppress “the intolerant”, you give to the Nazis. It goes straight into their hands for them to use against the people they deem “intolerant”. Popper asks you to forge the tools of your own demise.
Thomas Paine’s philosophy breaks the cycle. He opposes fascism in general. When you instill Thomas Paine’s values in the general populace, you discredit yourself in their eyes as soon as you call for suppressing anyone.
Fascism that you happen to agree with is still fascism. Popper’s actual paradox is that he was a fascist.
Thank you, I will read more about this.
“Fascism that you happen to agree with is still fascism.” Do you truly believe that those calling for oppression against fascists, become fascist? We must be using different definitions of fascism, unless you’re saying that us making them the out-group is the same. That doesn’t ring true to me. Are there examples of this from history?
Do you truly believe that those calling for oppression
Whatever tool of oppression you are going to use is the exact same tool that will be used against you.
Paine’s message is “destroy those tools so nobody can use them”.
Popper’s message is “use these tools until you face no oppression”.
Popper was a fascist.
Oppression is not fascism
Jesus Christ Sharif, someone told you that he’s going to come after people who literally just want to go about existing unbothered, ya know like you want to do, and out of fear you thought “hell yeah, hurt the thing I don’t understand, you got my vote!”
The fuck?! Does it tax your brain remembering to breathe?
Clearly, Sharif, you lack the mental capacity to empathise with anything outside of your immediate experience, so perhaps a shared lived experience is your only route to empathy with people outside your immediate circles.
I wish you all the best on your journey to growing and hope, once your empathetic abilities are developed, you’re able to be readmitted into humanity, but I don’t wish for that journey to be a pleasant experience for you; may it be filled with fear, pain, and persecution.
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