Vice President Kamala Harris on Friday called on the federal government to move “as quickly as possible” to change the way it officially classifies marijuana, saying that “nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed.”

“I cannot emphasize enough that they need to get to it as quickly as possible,” Harris said. “We need to have a resolution based on their findings and their assessment. This issue is stark when one considers the fact that on the schedule currently, marijuana is considered as dangerous as heroin ― as dangerous as heroin ― and more dangerous than fentanyl, which is absurd, not to mention patently unfair.”

Marijuana is currently listed as a Schedule 1 drug by the Drug Enforcement Administration. That classification designates it one of the most dangerous drugs possible, with no medicinal uses. Other substances in the same category include heroin, ecstasy and LSD. Marijuana advocates have been pushing for years for the federal government to either reschedule marijuana to a different category or deschedule it entirely.

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    Harris oversaw more than 1,900 marijuana convictions in San Francisco, previously unreported records from the DA’s office show. Her prosecutors appear to have convicted people on marijuana charges at a higher rate than under her predecessor, based on data about marijuana arrests in the city.

    As the political winds blow with her I guess. At least it’s a positive change.

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      As an AG, it was her role to uphold the law and bring forward prosecutions.

      I’m recognizing positive change, which is an option now with her new role

      Edit I’ll also acknowledge it’s an election year and this is a popular topic TOO

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      Eh.

      That was when it went from jail to a fine though.

      So lots of people stopped giving a shit and started smoking publicly.

      And she’s been pro legalization for years now.

      There’s lots of shit to criticize Biden and Harris on, but Harris’s time as a DA and her cannabis conviction just isn’t a good one.

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        “Under Harris, the D.A.'s office obtained more than 1,900 convictions for marijuana offenses, including persons simultaneously convicted of marijuana offenses and more serious crimes.[73] The rate at which Harris’s office prosecuted marijuana crimes was higher than the rate under Hallinan, but the number of defendants sentenced to state prison for such offenses was substantially lower.[73] Prosecutions for low-level marijuana offenses were rare under Harris, and go her office had a policy of not pursuing jail time for marijuana possession offenses.”

        From her Wikipedia page (the reference is pay walled and im not invested enough to figure it out).

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    I barely touched weed my whole life until I got medical access ~5 years ago. I was also never a big drinker or user of other recreational substances.

    The stuff helps me so much that I use my vape or edibles almost every single day. That plus the margin of safety makes it downright cruel in my eyes that it’s prohibited in so many places.

    But I guess given the racist motives of the anti-marijuana push 40 years ago, maybe the cruelty was the point.

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    You know, this is a pretty smart way to approach the political side of this tactically.

    Biden can’t say deschedule it outright without offending at least some borderline fence sitters and the elder crowd indoctrinated with the old propaganda that made it out to be among the most terrible things.

    By having the younger VP who wouldn’t really have direct authority to have it changed but is directly I’m the same circles, it gets the idea out there as a ‘very strong unofficial stance’.

    Next step, the ‘cool grandpa’ moment when Biden gets to make a gesture for the younger crowd by having it pulled from the schedules. Financially the feds have undoubtedly been eyeing the income (and lack of incarceration costs) brought into states with legal sales for a while and would like a piece of it too.

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    Pretty sure she put a ton of people in jail for this in Washington state. If that’s really how you feel where was the leniency then?

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          In what capacity did she put people in jail in Washington state? Let’s follow this thing through to the end.

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              No because he’s just parroting a talking point that he’s heard here without even being accurate.

              He could at least acknowledge that her position has changed and we’re close to progress.

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                Her positioned has changed? If you want a politician that is true to their beliefs then you elect someone like Bernie. If you’re okay with someone that will revert course again when they want to fill their pockets with more private-prison money, but at least they’re not Trump, then you go with Biden/Kamala.

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                  Or, and hear me out on this, her position truly changed.

                  I used to think billionaires were cool. Now I think they’re detrimental to society and represent a lot of what’s wrong with wealth inequality in this country. People learn, opinions change - we should welcome that.

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    “Somebody ought to do something about this ASAP,” says one of the only people on the planet actually capable of doing something about it for the last 4 years. OK.

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      Biden could order cannabis descheduled ( what his campaign program was) and if agencies don’t listen, fucking fire the agency heads and hire someone that will. It literally one of the handful of things he could do himself.

      But somehow it’s 3.5 years into his first term. And Biden has apparently compromised even more with himself and we won’t get his original compromise of descheduling.

      When a president acts like this right before their next election, lots of voters rationally stop believing any of their current campaign promises.

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        He attempted to forgive student debt (which was in his right to do so as head of the executive branch) and got swatted down by the corrupt Supreme Court. What do you think will happen if he rescheduled marijuana?

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      Lemmy sees something good happen:

      “Not good enough!”

      We all know it should have happened before, but dismissing that the vice president just publicly called for this is silly

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        I hate it here for that reason. With this being the last option, I’ve reverted to Google News, NYTimes and SF Chronicle apps. Lemmy’s inability to feel joy has helped me ditch social media most of the time.

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        The words of a politician are not accomplishments.

        If it ever gets descheduled, it’ll be an accomplishment. I’m not going to treat announcements as accomplishments.

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          Public discourse from a sitting executive politician represents progress. It is not enough yet, but it is progress. In years past such statements would have been massively disruptive, and via speech like this the topic is being normalized.

          It’s not enough yet. We arenf done

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            Stop expecting me to believe that politicians’ lies are progress just because you believe them.

            It’s not an accomplishment until it’s accomplished.

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              Just because you don’t understand the power of normalized discourse doesn’t mean I have some obligation to you.

              I’m just telling you how reality works.

              Edit im proud to hear more discussion of climate, LGBT, drug decrim and other issues, at increasingly public and increasingly executive levels.

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                I know the difference between hot air and accomplishments. You’re not going to gaslight me into accepting the former as the latter. All you’re doing is convincing me that you prefer words to accomplishments.

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                  50 years ago a woman, non-white politician wouldn’t have been a common thing. Part of how we got to where we are today is via public, popularized discourse.

                  The same occurs in this article and the speech that lead to it.

                  It doesn’t mean the world is changing in an active sense, but it does mean the conversation is happening. This is part of the power of executive office.

                  I’m sorry you had to learn about this from me.

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    “nobody should have to go to jail for smoking weed”

    -The person who made a career putting people in jail for smoking weed

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      Harris has been pro weed for years now. One of the foremost issues with our political system in the US is that these people are elected by a constituency that demands a job be done in a way that they want. (I am purposely ignoring the corporate donor aspect for this statement)

      The locality (and the era) demanded drug dealers go to jail, so she did her job. Where Harris has floundered is how she talks about it and attonrs for it today.

      You can be outspoken about a politicians past, but it’s disingenuous to ignore that a politician has changed, especially so if they have changed with positive progression.

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    I think if Biden and Harris were to officially endorse decriminalizing or legalizing recreational marijuana, we’d see a Democrat landslide. But that would require some actual common sense from Congressmen.

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    As quickly as possible…now that we’ve done nothing about it for nearly four years, but we have to win another election soon.

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    I unironically think that if marijuana should be banned, then so should alcohol

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      Maybe try reading about the 1920s attempt and get back to us on if you still feel that way.

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        The difference is I don’t think either should be banned, really. But mainly because the bans just don’t work.

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      Let’s hope more politicians don’t do things that the majority of the people want in order to be reelected, what a terrible world that would be.

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        My point is they haven’t done it already because their doners want people in their prisons. It is the same reason it will never pass and they know it. She is just saying words. That’s it. Pandering to people dumb enough to believe them. Just like their spill about taxing the rich and student loan relief. It goes directly against the interest of the people that got them where they are. The half ass attempts are to make us think they tried and the big bad Republicans stopped it. It’s all theater.

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    She’s correct. It’s a completely right ridiculous policy based on a century of racism.

    Ok, I used smoke a power of weed. I do not anymore. I do not wish to partake at all to be honest. Yet I think criminalisation of ‘the culture’ makes it both more lucrative to criminal elements who also do much harm in other sectors, and make it even more attractive to youth who might try and quit it sooner.

    I’m not saying it’s all bad. I’m saying it’s over-romanced by criminalisation.