Yeah we live in the Fascist States of America. They’re just fully mask-off racist now.
It’s very strange timing to do this at a huge scale as the US economy is teetering and the dollar is spiraling. Bread and circuses is the playbook for a reason, their tax bill is going to hit like a brick wall for a lot of Americans. And instead of your pop-pop getting his Medicare check you’re now seeing that spent on concentration camps in your back yard.
There’s a limit to fear mongering and strong arming when it pushes against economic reality. No amount of crackdowns will help when bread costs $20/loaf, international money stops coming in, and the job market crashes all in less than a few years. It’s one thing to manufacture a crisis but they might be burning the Reichstag a little too hot.
The cuts don’t come through until after the '26 elections. Fucking Republican cunts will point their short little pudgy fingers at Dems and say,“What did you do?” and idiot fucking voter (or even more idiot single issue non-voters) will grab it like a trout going after a fly.
In Weimer Germany, that loaf hyperinflated to at least $1,000, and would double by the end of a day.
As a bronze lining, at least hyperinflation would happen to the Trump Regime and should cause quite a bit of blowback. It was the Weimer’s economic problems that installed Hitler. With any luck, we will see Trump hanging by his feet, and AOC hard at work at his former desk.
And people are disappearing.
That’s the actual point.
Bludgeoningly obviously, ICE had been chosen to be America’s Gestapo.
An overfunded undisciplined paramilitary of degenerates that couldn’t make it through police academy, what could go wrong?
A massively enlarged unaccountable army beholden to Trump, huh can’t imagine what could go wrong.
Peacefully polite protesting should do the trick. You democrats reading my comment have any thoughts on the Second Amendment now? (Im a socialist and own guns and am not trolling, just want to genuinely ask what a solution is to this)
As much as I hate the idea of having guns just all around the place in society, I think at this point I’d have gotten one myself if I didn’t think I was more likely to kill myself with it than actually do anything useful.
I haven’t done it yet. But for me it doesn’t make sense to do it with a gun.
I always wondered if family members of ICE members know that they are members… If I had a cousin that was ICE, I would go absolutely no contact with him, and would let everyone know that the guy is ICE. Wear your shitty mask, but people will know.
Someone should start an ICE database, where pictures of ICE people are posted, even masked. And let people who know them come forward and say “hey. I know the guy in picture X, it is John blabla”. Then, bully those pieces of shit out of existence.
Someone should start an ICE database
It’d probably be better to pretend to befriend them. Information is power.
Be prepared to have checkpoints everywhere you go.
papers please
God bless the United States of authoritarianism
/s
America is fuckity fuck fucked. Enjoy Americans, this is what you voted for: fascism and tax breaks for billionaires.
It’s never going to stay limited to the US. Palantir will guaranteed be used by other governments outsourcing their tyranny.
Other way around: The US has been doing this kind of thing abroad for a long time, without realising that it was never going to stay limited to Iraq/Gaza/Libya/etc, and that the imperial boomerang would eventually come home
Just thinking of all the value for the shareholders makes me shudder with ecstasy 😍
For the next quarter at least.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
It’s been pointed out repeatedly that the only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Meh, they showed the world what piece of shit US is.
If your country can openly fund genocide to concentration camps, your “system” probably needs a big reset. But the people who wanted none of it are to blame. 1000 IQ logic, there bud.
It’s a mask off and the world thanks them for it. US will probably be next to Russia, China, Iran and North Korea in a decade in terms on international reputation. Hollywood’s not going to work this time because people have way more access to information first hand than they did with pirated movies last decade.
Keep projecting tho, that’ll definitely fix it.
I’m not blaming, I am informing protest-non-voters what they voted for. As for
what they wantedwhat they voted for, this is it.
Also what Democrat voters voted for, they just wanted it to happen to foreigners only.
I mean yeah, I care more about my own country than other countries on the other side of the planet, which is why I voted in a way most likely to prevent authoritarianism in my own country.
The dumbfucks that voted 3rd party or abstained from voting apparently don’t give a fuck about their own country, much less others, whom they endangered further by allowing authoritarianism in their own country.
So you admit you don’t give a fuck about the lives of most of the human race, and angry at the people who do.
At least Palestine is free so we have that going for us.
I still chose to blame the republicans.
No one ever just blames them directly in these conversations. It’s always “blame the protest non-voters” or “blame the leftists” or whatever.
Just go directly to blaming the people who gleefully voted for it. Everything else is just infighting and stupid.
I am informing the protest-non-voters what they voted for.
Don’t worry, they’re already well aware that you don’t understand how voting works
Ah playing ignorance. Or should I call it denial. Good stuff.
Lol, what a weak ad hominem
And there’s the projection. I’m sure you’ll continue so have at it. Ciao.
How is that projection? Are you just picking buzzwords at random?
Just go directly to blaming the people who gleefully voted for it. Everything else is just infighting and stupid.
No it’s not. There is a huge difference.
Republicans wanted this so they voted for it. You don’t have to tell them this lol they are thrilled. Of course we blame them. That shit is all over the internet all the time, but a scorpion is a scorpion. Its in its nature, you cant change their whole ideology.
The group he is criticizing claimed to have been protest-non-voting because of harm done to specific groups. Mainly Palestinians. This is the group who should have empathy for human beings, who’s motive should align with the other Democratic voters.
We told them REPTEADLY. LOUDLY. CLEARLY. that what they were doing would result in worse violence FOR PALESTINIANS and MORE marginalized groups like TRANS PEOPLE and IMMIGRANTS. And what happened? Exactly what we told them would happen. So everyone who fucking claimed to have been doing what they were doing to protest needs to see this. They need to be held accountable. WHAT PRIVILEGE IT IS to be able to protest and go back to your life without worrying about ICE or Israel or transphobes or Russians coming and killing you.
WE TRIED TO GET THEM TO HELP PROTECT THESE GROUPS AND THEY REFUSED KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT WAS COMING. THE GOP PUBLISHED THE MANUAL BEFORE THE ELECTION.
Every time someone says “I told you so” it comes with a justified rage and I won’t fuckin hear someone telling them to stop bringing it up. Fuck that.
I hope this sticks with them and the guilt haunts whatever conscience they have for the rest of their life. It’s not comparable to what they allowed to happen. It doesn’t even register on the scale next to this. They were the ones who actually could’ve stopped this.
The democrats didn’t give anything worth voting for. I’ll never vote for genocide. It’s literally a systemic issue. Don’t punch left, punch right.
You literally did vote for this if you abstained from this past election. How about you help punch right instead of being a fucking pussy.
You’re fucking dispicable and selfish. Worse than a red voter because you claim to care about other people. Fuck you. Virtue signaling garbage.
Damn, when such great voter outreach, it’s hard to imagine how you lost…
Are you going to try to win the next election too by calling the people you want the support of of virtue signalling despicable pussies?
when such great voter outreach
How do you reach out to dumbfuck loser dipshits who drag everyone else down with them?
You may as well try to reach out to a diehard Trump supporter.
dumbfuck loser dipshits
Good luck in the midterms!
If they pretend to care about people’s rights and then vote to kill them yeah that makes them a virtue signaling pussy
Yeah yeah, whatever. Good luck in the midterms!
how’s that vote working out for you? able to sleep at night warm in your convictions while children are slaughtered in Israel?
did you even make a difference?
How’s prioritising committing genocide over winning the election working out for you?
I don’t know because my efforts to stop the bleeding failed within my own country because some people hate everyone who isn’t like them and others were blinded by their hubris.
once we regain power I’ll let you know, but I doubt I’ll be alive when that happens so don’t hold your breath.
Guess you shouldn’t have prioritised genocide over winning the election then
The democrats didn’t give anything worth voting for.
I can see how stupid, ignorant people could think this.
Anyone not stupid and ignorant knew multiple things.
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Democrats are better for our economy. That’s not debatable. That’s fact.
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Democrats don’t strip our rights. That’s also not debatable. Also fact.
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Democrats regularly vote in favor of the middle/lower classes. Again, not debatable. Fact, as well.
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Democrats didn’t run on a platform of hate and fascism.
Now, I don’t know how stupid people brains work firsthand, but from where I’m standing, those are all things worth voting for, particularly when the other side are MOTHERFUCKING NAZIS.
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Don’t you see that the uncommitted movement has the exact same argument?
They told you repeatedly, over and over, clearly, for over a year, that running a Democratic candidate who supports the ongoing genocide will drastically reduce turnout in the Democrat base.
The voting results show that they were right.
You can try to self-soothe by saying “I told you so”, yet they can do the exact same thing. This accomplishes nothing except further factionalization of the Democrat vote.
Your focus on infighting is misplaced at a time when we need to be building coalition to fight Trump and fascism.
They told you repeatedly, over and over, clearly, for over a year, that running a Democratic candidate who supports the ongoing genocide will drastically reduce turnout in the Democrat base.
“Waaaaaaaaaaah. We’re sending agreed upon arms shipments to our most important ally in the Middle East that we really don’t want to lose as an ally. We’re not going to vote or waste our vote on a 3rd party if that continues to show we’re protesting that.”
“Oops, now my country is a fascist state with a newly minted Gestapo and a tanking economy, repeated violations of the Constitution, a mad king, and our rights are being infringed upon. HEY, DON’T BLAME ME. I was just fighting corruption in the dumbest possible way!!!”
Your focus on infighting is misplaced at a time when we need to be building coalition to fight Trump and fascism.
“Hey guys, I know these dipshits just caused Trump and fascism to happen in the first place, but let’s hold hands with them anyway and hope their innate stupidity doesn’t hurt us more going forward.”
The eternal electoral cycle:
Democrats ignore leftists
Democrats demand leftist votes
Democrats blame leftists (you are here)
Don’t you see that the uncommitted movement has the exact same argument?
No they don’t have the same argument. Biden was changed out for Kamala and that still wasn’t good enough. She has a better voting record than Bernie in the Senate.
Moreover, we have data on Kamala and trump in the Whitehouse. No one can say they didn’t know it would be like this.
When push comes to shove you don’t vote for someone who pushes through a 168 billion dollar gestappo budget. It’s not the same fucking thing. You vote for someone who responds to criticism not revels in the chaos and cruelty. Jesus Christ you people are insane.
ID RATHER KILL PEOPLE THAN COMPROMISE
fucking moron
They told you repeatedly, over and over, clearly, for over a year, that running a Democratic candidate who supports the ongoing genocide will drastically reduce turnout in the Democrat base.
Not me, I’m a Bernie camp voter, zohran fan, etc. I just have a soul. Conceding to the Democrats to keep the worst president we’ve ever had out of office for a 2nd term is an easy choice.
The voting results show that they were right.
Yeah, the point isnt about who they selected it’s about who YOU VOTED FOR.
You can try to self-soothe by saying “I told you so”, yet they can do the exact same thing.
No they can’t, see above.
This accomplishes nothing except further factionalization of the Democrat vote.
No one who was willing to “protest” during this election is actually a good person. They can just put their red hats on. They are playing for the selfish team so put on the uniform.
Your focus on infighting is misplaced at a time when we need to be building coalition to fight Trump and fascism.
That’s fucking rich considering we just had a FUCKING ELECTION WHERE WE COULDVE DONE EXACTLY THAT
Biden was changed out for Kamala and that wasn’t good enough for a portion of the Democratic Party electorate because both candidates support the Israeli genocide. If you were paying attention before the election this should come as no surprise.
Your strawman arguments and insults do not change the ground reality. Your argument is the same as theirs: “if my political opponents would have acted differently then fascism wouldn’t have taken over.” This is a childish way to look at politics; political factions and voters have never behaved this way.
Your impotant rage does not align with the fact that, even if all third party voters went for Kamala, she still would have lost.
Please point out the straw man lmao
If your parents picked the restaurant you’re going to eat at as a kid all you can do is pick the meal.
Biden was changed out for Kamala and that wasn’t good enough for a portion of the Democratic Party electorate because both candidates support the Israeli genocide.
Yeah that’s true, and either one of them would’ve responded better to protests, criticisms, and pressure better than Trump had they been elected. Lol
If you were paying attention before the election this should come as no surprise.
It’s not surprising, it’s heartbreaking that American voters chose more death rather than less death.
Your strawman arguments and insults do not change the ground reality. Your argument is the same as theirs: “if my political opponents would have acted differently then fascism wouldn’t have taken over.” This is a childish way to look at politics; political factions and voters have never behaved this way.
That is reductive and not true. False equivalency throughout your statement. My argument is distinct from theirs. Your are choosing to ignore all the reasons why it’s different that I have already explained. If you truly believe they are the same and not arguing in bad faith here then you don’t have a grasp of logic.
The rage is because voters don’t do what they should do. Everyone who isn’t a Nazi should’ve been adult enough to put their bullshit aside and stop 47 from happening and then go back to fighting to push us further left…but they wouldn’t do it. And it’s inexcusable.
Muslim leaders in Arizona told their voter bases to vote Kamala.
Ruwa Romman even called people out who were trying to say the same shit I’m seeing in here virtue signalers. She’s a palestinian democrat in Georgia who was subbed by the DNC.
Your impotant rage does not align with the fact that, even if all third party voters went for Kamala, she still would have lost.
Debatable.
She lost key swing states by thin margins. 300,000 votes in the right places and the election flips.
you have to count non voters as well as 3rd party protest voters. That number is unknowable with any certainty. What is knowable is that there were taken away from her by people who claim to care but actually chose violence.
20 million registered voters didn’t vote.
And if 1.5% of them had voted it could have flipped the election. 1 person out of 67 non voters stepping up could’ve flipped it in the best case scenario.
Everyone who isn’t a Nazi should’ve been adult enough to put their bullshit aside and stop 47 from happening and then go back to fighting to push us further left…but they wouldn’t do it. And it’s inexcusable.
Bingo!
both candidates support the Israeli genocide.
Man, the world must be pretty black and white for you. Which must be pretty easy to achieve when you completely ignore the complexities of international relations.
When one side maintains an important allegiance but still openly states they are not fine with what their ally is doing, floats arms shipment cancellations, and helps try to broker a peace deal, that is very different from the other side openly stating they support that ally’s aggression and even float building a resort once that ally has eradicated their opposition.
Anyone with an adult brain inside their skull would look at the situation and pick the option that’s less destructive to the people they claim to care about. To ensure those people are as protected as they have the power to make them.
But we’re not talking about people with adult brains inside their skulls.
I like how you pointed out that they were told exactly what would happen if they didn’t vote or voted 3rd party, and that was the opposite of what they claim they wanted, then you point out that that’s exactly what happened, as they were told it would, and yet people are still downvoting you.
Lot of dummies out there. Guess Lemmy isn’t an exception.
The problem is, you know what the Republicans will do. Not voting is cutting your nose off to spite your face.
I blame both.
I blame anyone who willingly stopped the bleeding of the wound. be it by their own stupidity or negligence, you are responsible for what is yet to come.
every single one of you will get what’s coming to you. fascism doesn’t see borders or people. fascism is blind, and only follows strength in power. pray to your “god” and beg forgiveness all you want, it will do nothing for the hurt you have brought upon yourself.
I sleep easy knowing I voted for Kamala…and when the time comes I’ll die for my cause. I ain’t backing down to anything or anyone.
Ironic, it was Democrat voters who were voting for “fascism, but only outside our borders.”
Dumb comment alert!!!
Lazy ad hominem
I mean I blame all 3 equally.
Trump Supporters: Straight anti-American scum. Enemies of democracy. Couldn’t give a flying fuck about our Constitution.
Non-Voters: Scum who couldn’t be bothered to fulfill their civic duty by respecting the fact that they live in a democracy, which they clearly do not respect.
3rd Party Voters: Scum who couldn’t rub some brain cells together to realize there were ZERO paths to the presidency for any 3rd party, but did it for funsies anyway, providing a more realistic path to the presidency for Republican traitor scum.
They’re all stupid. They’re all at fault.
The root cause is the democratic party’s complete disconnect with its consituents. If you insist on scape goating, you are giving them a green light to lose the next election too.
It what world is anyone to blame but the people that chose to make genocide their running platform? This whole “blame the voters” game is a zionist talking points so we don’t pressure the dems to change their stance on Israel.
It what world is anyone to blame but the people that chose to make genocide their running platform?
I wish I could live in the world you live in where complex international relations don’t exist.
This whole “blame the voters” game is a zionist talking points so we don’t pressure the dems to change their stance on Israel.
Nah, it’s blaming dipshits who gambled with authoritarianism and lost.
You think creating a voting issue out of genocide wasn’t a gamble? You are blaming the wrong dipshits lmao.
FYI, I think abstaining from voting was a bad move but holy shit was actually enabling genocide the worst possible one. I expect better from the “good guys” and I blame them completely for the fiasco.
But keep encouraging them and watch them lose the next election too.
You’ll soon start seeing huge investment in trains, and their time-table as well.
It’s absolutely fucked that this could be how trains and rail-lines get reinvigorated.
We’ve got our Stasi, now.
It’s Orwellian Black Mirror shit!
My time will come. Voted (D), protested, and we have a pride flag at our house.
No, I will not leave my country. I will fight to the death when the goons grab me.
Yes, but unironically
ICE-melting technology, nice
Keep a knife on your person. They could surprise you, and your teeth can’t get through much.
Death Camps.
We are so far along the nazi playbook we just need to invade Poland I guess.
Not before the Olympics. But you can already start killing the disabled. Also look out for the new ICE guys to kill the old ones.
Correct, the fucker Hitler show cased Nazi Germany during the 1936 Olympics and the reviews were overwhelmingly positive from the visitors.
People are already dying in ICE detention. How many for we need to call them death camps?
You are silly. You only call them death camps after the war.
M guessing this is a comparison to the holocaust. Comparing the Ice camps to the holocaust is reducing the holocaust massively, where the word death camp is usually used. During the peak 15000 People were murdered every single day. For 3 Months straight.
The death toll in Auschwitz alone would have been enough to completely depopulate San José, the 10. biggest city in the USA and then some more. The sheer size is nearly incomprehensible.
Yeah the direction is there, but be thankful there is still a long way to go. There is still time to stop it.
Your Anschluss failed, though, so at least some of that playbook is being disrupted.
