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    dictatorship was happening outside their own borders for the longest time. kind of why you guys pay so much money to keep a military almost bigger than every other in the world combined.

    inside the us the blacks have seen the boot way more. ask any awake black person if its been a democracy for them.

    or ask central, south america, africa and east asia if the repeated coups over the decades are anything less than dictatorial.

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      Yeah, that’s grasping really hard. Even if we assume the it isn’t a democracy because voting was unfair, it still isn’t a dictatorship because power was being passed around to different people. Also, outside has nothing to do with the definition of a dictatorship.

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        its not. look up your own history of installing brutal dictatorships in the aforementioned places.

        and of bullying the third world into neoliberal capitalism with very exploitative terms or else. it doesnt matter we have “elections” if the us is the one always calling the shots.

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          Dude, that is not fascism. That’s imperialism. Those are totally different things and Fascists are not the only imperialists, nor are Fascists imperialist by definition. Fascism is something specific, not just “evil” government.

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            imperialism and fascism are two sides of the same coin.

            fascists are the only ones to practice imperialism to nearly this extent after the industrial revolution.

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              fascists are the only ones to practice imperialism to nearly this extent after the industrial revolution.

              How did you come to this conclusion? This is absolutely made up to make your argument seem stronger than it is.

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                  Monarchies have been for most of history. I get you put in the stipulation of after the industrial revolution, but still monarchies are top dog. Yeah, Fascists did too, but I’d say the US did more, although you’re arguing that the US is fascist, but you’re arguing it because the starting point is Fascists are imperialist.

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                    its just that the worldwide reach of the regime makes it easier to insulate the in-groups from ever seeing any of it happen. for this reason north-americans have a hard time grasping at how miserable you guys are truly making our lives, and how brutal the genocides you sponsor for money and influence truly are.

                    the genocide and general oppession of brown people outside the imperial core looks very fascist to me, its a step up from just imperialism.