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    4 months ago

    Dude, that is not fascism. That’s imperialism. Those are totally different things and Fascists are not the only imperialists, nor are Fascists imperialist by definition. Fascism is something specific, not just “evil” government.

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      4 months ago

      imperialism and fascism are two sides of the same coin.

      fascists are the only ones to practice imperialism to nearly this extent after the industrial revolution.

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        4 months ago

        fascists are the only ones to practice imperialism to nearly this extent after the industrial revolution.

        How did you come to this conclusion? This is absolutely made up to make your argument seem stronger than it is.

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            4 months ago

            Monarchies have been for most of history. I get you put in the stipulation of after the industrial revolution, but still monarchies are top dog. Yeah, Fascists did too, but I’d say the US did more, although you’re arguing that the US is fascist, but you’re arguing it because the starting point is Fascists are imperialist.

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              its just that the worldwide reach of the regime makes it easier to insulate the in-groups from ever seeing any of it happen. for this reason north-americans have a hard time grasping at how miserable you guys are truly making our lives, and how brutal the genocides you sponsor for money and influence truly are.

              the genocide and general oppession of brown people outside the imperial core looks very fascist to me, its a step up from just imperialism.

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                I know perfectly well it’s bad. A “step up” from imperialism? It is imperialism, although it’s less brutal than historical imperialism. Just look at India under British rule, for example, or the sugar plantation islands under all the imperialists of the past. Imperialism has always been horribly brutal. That doesn’t make it all fascist. I don’t think many would argue the British monarchy was fascist. It was an imperialist monarchy.