• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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      My God you guys have either the worst comprehension possible or you’re just being disingenuously annoying.

      Criticizing Democrats for doing undemocratic things is not the same as saying Republicans are better, and it’s not the same as supporting trump.

      Both parties are fully bought and paid for by corporate interests and massive lobbies, especially one specific lobby from another country that is carrying out a genocide right now.

      Pointing this out does not mean that you think trump is great. It means you can read the writing on the wall and that things need to change in a big way.

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        Both parties are fully bought and paid for by corporate interests…

        I get what you’re saying in the rest of your comment but I think you are wrong here. To say “fully” bought and paid for is incredibly misleading. On the vast majority of issues that favor corporate interests democrats vote in favor of working people at a high rate. It’s really not hard to check the voting on each issue. It’s the same 5% of Dems that repeatedly vote for corporate interests. While the other 95% get blamed for it. On the other hand nearly all Republicans vote in lock step with corporate interests. They are not even remotely comparable.

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        Both parties are fully bought and paid for by corporate interests and massive lobbies,

        bOthSiDeSaMe again.

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          My god, we just witnessed the King of the Hill “Are y’all with the cult?” meme in action.

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          I thinl you would really need to adress my short answer to your comment if you take this forum or it’s members serious in any way. This also means you’d need to do it if you take your own Impetus serious…

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          Lol so reading comprehension is the issue apparently

          Nowhere did I say they were the same I pointed out specific things they do that are equivalent

          That’s like me saying you’re a human and have two arms and two legs and you being like oh my God hitler has two arms and legs too you’re calling me hitler

          Go back to school, read some books, read some history, and try to have an original thought in your head one day

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        My God you guys have either the worst comprehension possible it’s [both sides bad]

        You

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    Yeah let’s dream about being revolutionaries and just post memes. Its so helpful, especially as one political party is going to try to take away my civil rights.

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      Neccessary tactical support for the democrats should not blind us regarding their standing towards class. I guess this is what OP wants us to remember

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        It’s disingenuous to act like Biden stopping the rail union from hitting the economy during a recovery is the same as Trump or DeSantis or anyone else completely removing the ability from everyone to collectively organize.

        I’m sorry you don’t like Biden but, we’ve always had to vote for the lesser of two evils. It’s that way EVERY election. If you want to change that, we need ranked choice voting and proportional representation, not staying home on election day.

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          Have you considered simply not voting and then just acting like a smug douche who’s above politics when the fascists inevitably take over and march us all to the concentration camps?

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          No, how dare strikes have leverage or consequences! I am totally pro-union and worker.

          But seriously, if the president had the power to remove NLRB, it would have already been gone. Jesus, Trump being worse than Biden doesn’t mean he’s vastly worse on every issue.

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          During the same recovery we were handing out millions like candy to the richest amongst us?

          Why bail out airlines and giant conglomerates instead of the American people?

          I agree we need ranked choice voting and better candidates. I didn’t say people should not vote either. If that’s your argument against me, point out where I said people shouldn’t vote.

          You don’t get change unless you call out the issues. If every time someone says “hey this guy isn’t the best guy we could have,” or “hey, this isn’t the best system we could have,” the response of “well it’s always been this way” does nothing but keep excusing the massive disparities and injustices that are continuing to grow at this point.

          I’m sorry you guys can’t imagine a better world where people have better choices for candidates at the very least, and at the most a world where the system we generally live by is structurally changed.

          The bar gets lower every election cycle. If the best we can keep doing is “hey I’m not that guy”, then everything is going to just get shittier because that’s a pretty low bar to scale.

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            Nothing you said was inaccurate but I don’t see how a meme saying ‘both sides are the same’ helps anyone.

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      Didn’t Biden stop railroad workers from unionizing and then two weeks later we had like 3 derailments one of which spread toxic chemicals across 16 states?

      Seems super pro union

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        It’s disingenuous to act like Biden stopping the rail union from hitting the economy during a recovery is the same as Trump or DeSantis or anyone else completely removing the ability from everyone to collectively organize.

        I’m sorry you don’t like Biden but, we’ve always had to vote for the lesser of two evils. It’s that way EVERY election. If you want to change that, we need ranked choice voting and proportional representation, not staying home on election day.