• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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      30 days ago

      Its not the first time MAGA fell ass-backwards into accidently supporting a good policy, like when they were calling Trump the peace candidate and opposing needless foreign wars, you know before he murdered hundreds of iranian children and started an unwinnable war.

      It would be nice to see them figure out how to support not starving some country for the purpose of weakening them for a future coup or invasion for like 5 minutes until Trump does the opposite of that.

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        30 days ago

        Believing Trump would be a president of peace is just being gullible.

        MAGA and the far-left both supporting Russia’s genocide of Ukraine and North Korea’s many human rights violations is just proof that the horseshoe theory is correct.

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          30 days ago

          Do you suppose making conditions worse for everyone in NK has been successful in curtailing human rights abuses?

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            I’m not educated enough in geopolitics to fully answer that question but I do know that North Korea already severely restricts information that flows in and out of the country which makes it hard to know if the sanctions even have an impact on their citizens.

            If North Korea allowed them to talk to other people and travel unrestricted and gave them the choice if they wanted to continue that family’s experiment or not I’d have an easier time supporting them.

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            29 days ago

            Their leader is fat off coke and cheese. He is the one that makes life for them difficult at this point.

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            30 days ago

            Can you cite exactly what America or any other western country has done specifically, like even just ONE thing, to make conditions worse for everyone in NK? Like I can google the sanctions, they seem pretty targeted at the elite, and over some pretty good reasons.

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              29 days ago

              If we discount dropping napalm on cities during the war? Or timing military drills to coincide with the harvest and planting seasons to pull farmers away from the fields for self-defence?

              I can google the sanctions, they seem pretty targeted at the elite

              They ban NK from buying oil, industrial equipment, or selling any of their resources. This is the same play we ran between Iraq pt I and II, after destroying their infrastructure and then restricting them from being allowed to buy the parts to repair it on the international market.

              Ostensibly the justification is to cause as much suffering as possible so the people overthrow the government and we can replace it with one who will sell out their people’s resources and labor.

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        30 days ago

        Believing that North Korea’s working class is starving because of Western sanctions instead of an authoritarian dictatorship is the result of Chinese propaganda.

        Like look at the timeline of the sanctions. They’re a hell of a lot more recent than the starving.

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          The sanctions go back to the war, the famine after the war were due to having most of they buildings destroyed and 20% of their population killed. They restarted after the USSR fell and they lost their biggest trading partner, same story with Cuba.

          What’s the alternative story here, that Kim Jong Un eats all the food? That being “aUtHoRiTaRiAn” means he would rather rule over a starving populace than buy fuel for the tractors?

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            He is fat and always spending cash on stupid parades and American celebrities so…yea not far off to assume he’s that fucking stupid.

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            29 days ago

            Yes, the fan man had nothing to do with multiple failed 5-year plans because implementing a command economy is historically such a successful endeavor.

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              What the soviets and cpc have accomplished with central planning is undeniably remarkable.

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                Imagine what Cuba would look like if the Free Market decided who got to eat and receive medicine when there is barely enough food for the population due to the recently intensified blockade.

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                They couldn’t accomplish it without mass human rights abuses. It’s nothing to be proud of and they’re certainly not a role model worth emulating.

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                    Use your imagination. There’s no need to accept disgusting disregard for human life, for any purpose. It makes no sense to act like they did something good. Stop idolizing the human predators of humans.