• Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
    915·
    20 days ago

    That’s circular reasoning. Why is it bad to use AI to make this image? Would spending time in photoshop make it less good?

    • Lumidaub@feddit.org
      195·
      20 days ago

      Spending time in photoshop instead of asking the misinformation machine to make this would make it good, yes.

      • Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
        85·
        20 days ago

        I hate to break it to you but even Photoshop is an AI slop generation tool now. Hell, most flagship phones don’t take pictures anymore. What you get is an AI generated composite of a number of frames it took. Everything is fucked. Reality is done for.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        86·
        20 days ago

        Why? You just say it would be good, without explaining why. How is this image contributing to misinformation?

        • Lumidaub@feddit.org
          104·
          20 days ago

          It’s not the image itself, it’s the tool. Using it normalises the use of AI generation and thus indirectly promotes misinformation.

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                    4·
                    19 days ago

                    Because the Marxist-Leninist stance on AI isn’t fully formed, but generally sees it as a tool that can be useful, but that it’s being used for the worst ways under capitalism. I have yet to find an argument against AI in all cases that is grounded in dialectical materialism, instead it seems that aversion to AI is more emotional and moral than logical. Socialist countries already are using AI for beneficial reasons, the problems with AI largely stem from capitalism.

          • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
            75·
            20 days ago

            So there isn’t anything wrong with using AI to generate this image, except the possibility that others can use it for misinformation? How is that different from photoshop? Surely the misinformation is the problem, and not the tool at a universal level?

            • Lumidaub@feddit.org
              63·
              20 days ago

              It’s not about using this image for anything, this image doesn’t matter. It’s the normalisation of using AI generated images in general, for anything. I don’t know how else to explain that.

              • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                63·
                20 days ago

                It’s not the tool, it’s the use of the tool for misinformation that’s the problem. The internet, photoshop, TV, news, education system even are all used for misinformation, but that does not mean they are all dogmatically bad. The same applies to image generation.

                • Lumidaub@feddit.org
                  53·
                  20 days ago

                  So normalising the use of the tool that is just begging to be used to generate tons of misinformation with no effort at all and vomit it onto the internet does NOT promote misinformation?

                  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
                    63·
                    20 days ago

                    Not any more than using photoshop, the internet, or social media does. You’re taking a neo-Luddite stance against AI, irrationally blaming the tool instead of the capitalist system that abuses it.

    • HereIAm@lemmy.world
      123·
      20 days ago

      It bad because it’s AI. There’s no circular reasoning there. It’s just bad on it’s own because it’s been trained on stolen work.

      • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
        116·
        20 days ago

        IP itself should be abolished, and again, this is a neo-Luddite position attacking the tool rather than the capitalist system that abuses it. It’s entirely circular reasoning to say that AI is bad because it’s AI.