• teslekova@sh.itjust.works
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    The polling backs up OP’s general idea. These are very popular opinions when disconnected from party talking points.

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      But that’s what I mean. Most people are in favor of the abstract concepts, but when it comes time to implement them there will be a Democrat plan and a Republican plan.

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        Well, which republican and/or democrat plan includes “give all people safe housing” or “make healthcare free at point of use”? Etc.

        As far as I know, none of them.

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          Who pays for the housing? Where is the housing built? Which groups are eligible for the housing? As soon as you have specific answers to questions like that, you’ll find whatever answers you have to be very divisive.

          (I mean, look at San Francisco - it’s extremely hard to build housing for anyone there, even with a Democratic monopoly on local and state governments.)

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        Still, “everybody should get Medicare” is a pretty straightforward concept, and that’s the level of specificity we’re talking.

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          But look what actually happened when Obama tried to implement a much more modest reform of the health insurance system - it would be an understatement to say many people were not happy.

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            That was the companies fighting back, firing up the propaganda machine, forming people’s beliefs on one side or the other. It wasn’t about the facts.

            If it was, you would just build a public healthcare system.

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              It comes down to voters being against the policy, unlike what the OP claims. You think those voters were fooled, but they probably think you were fooled and they gave the Republicans 63 seats in the House of Representatives and 6 seats in the Senate in 2010.