• Digit@lemmy.wtf
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    2 hours ago

    Stable over rolling release?

    These are not mutually exclusive.

    Can haz stable rolling.

    E.g. use Gentoo, and avoid the ~ and ** keywords.

    Gentoo’s all about choice. You can choose to configure it so it does not require hand holding, and running it like a tamagochi. Or you can choose to fiddle with it so much it’s very time demanding… not the compiling, so much as the system configuration management. There’s official binhost now anyway. But then, if you’re fiddling around alot, you’ll send emerge to compile rather than just get a binary, to meet all your exacting nuances of configuration.

    I have one gentoo that’s been rock solid for … about 17 years, with only one blip of downtime when there was a fire. No hand-holding.

    Arch is indeed a different beast. In my experience, it’s only a matter of (relatively short) time before Arch eats its kernel or some other catastrophe that requires rescue or abandon.

    Respect to Manjaro for what they try do, offer arch with more stability (and conveniences).

    On a whim, just now, I made this

    Arch Faceplant image of archlogo skateboarder faceplanting with sudo pacman -Syu skatebloard in air

    But, then, I hear many things have changed in arch, since I last used arch (just before the switch to systemd)… and maybe things have changed, and it does not do that any more…?

    `

    And then also, can haz arch/artix/etc in a bedrock stratum… then it can carry on in its bloody rolling risky churn, in a safe space, where the more stable strata can pick up the slack when arch tries to faceplant itself again.

  • Laurel Raven@lemmy.zip
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    7 hours ago

    Went the other way, moved from Mint 22.3 to OpenSuSE Tumbleweed. Rolling release with solid testing before updates are pushed, any breakage during testing and they don’t push that day’s update, and if something does slip through and break things, just boot into the pre-update snapshot and wait a day to try again with the next patches.

    Up to date packages with low hassle, so as long as I don’t need stable-as-in-never-changes, it’s great.

    Also, nice to have KDE 6 finally and to have KDE not be a forgotten afterthought (Cinnamon is nice but I always feel like I’m limited compared to KDE)

  • GaumBeist@lemmy.ml
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    15 hours ago

    What about you? When did you choose stability over the rolling release?

    This is such sloppy engagement baiting. If it was just a hot take shitting all over one of the larger linux communities, that would be one thing, but to follow it up with a “let me know in the comments” just makes it all feel disingenuous and like somebody is being sponsored by NordVPN or Incogni to post their ragebait

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    14 hours ago

    Arch really isn’t that bad when you’re not mucking around with the AUR. Debian is a little overkill for most normal users in respect to stability but it’s good people have the freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their machines.

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      14 hours ago

      I think if I was running a server at home for anything more than just wanting to tinker, I’d probably use Debian. But even then, I think if I had a server at home it’d be just to have a server lol.

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    I’ve made ~6 Arch systems at this point. None of them have randomly broken on me, none of them have broken after an update and to be honest have been solid. I have no idea where the narrative of Arch being able to destroy itself at any point came from, but I don’t think it’s true at all.

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      Its because people grab it randomly and then blindly install off the AUR

      I was nervous to switch to arch at first because of all the jokes, but it’s honestly been pretty slick. My servers are all on Debian but I put arch on my daily driver and the most “tomogachi tinkering” I’ve done has been Bluetooth nonsense, which is a general problem on most distros.

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    Early on in Linux journey rolling distros are great.

    I started my Linux journey with a rolling distro and I’m thankful for that. It broke every other day I spend hours upon hours on stackoverflow and other forums trying to find solutions and to fix it. That led to understanding linux in general to a greater depth. I’m now on a stable distro because I’ve a job now but I was only able to land that job because I knew Linux well enough. I know even after 10+ years I’m nowhere near the level others are at but it’s about the journey and not the destination. I’ve grown along the way.

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip
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    15 hours ago

    I did not expect a Linux outlet to post such an ignorant and outdated take. Disappointed 👎

  • Big Baby Thor@sopuli.xyz
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    18 hours ago

    Been using CachyOS as a daily driver for a year now, for dev work, office work and some media work. It’s helped to eek out some extra performance thanks to using build flags for system packages that are built according to modern CPUs.

    Would I recommend or for newcomers? Not really. But that’s because it still does require using the terminal for system management. But they’re also working on fixing that.

  • Bizzle@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    Ok so at first I thought it was actually kind of cute and endearing but by the end I think that guy is an asshole

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    I think Fedora is best of both worlds, if you want something closer to current Linux kernels/mesa for things like gaming, but don’t want to run a rolling release distro like Arch. Been running Fedora for about a year now and couldn’t be happier with the transition.

    That said, if you aren’t gaming and just want absolute stability, no matter what, Mint or Debian ARE the go-to solutions to use. They are the Toyota Hilux of distros.

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      @chronicledmonocle @cannedtuna every time i’ve tried to install Fedora on a 4 year old PC with AMD Ryzen 9 and AMD GPU, either the graphics glitch during the install and i cant do anything, or it locks up on the desktop (both gnome and KDE). I havnt tried it in about 6 months but debian always just works.

      Now Im not a intense gamer, I play Factorio and DeeRock Galactic almost exclusively

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    15 year old install, one issue with crashes because of a regression in nvidia drivers that was solved after a month, I just rolled back till then.

    Idk wtf you imagine people doing.

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      I imagine a lot of people have spiderwebs of dependancies and obscure abandoned projects that collect dust and eventually break everything. If you stick to maintained projects or learn anything about package management at all, youll likely have no issues ever.

      I just type “yay” into terminal every month or so when im bored