Honestly, if you get caught doing this, you should be expelled and blacklisted from all colleges and universities by SSN, as well as put on an international registry.
that doesnt really fit the crime. in most universities you will get automatic zero on that assignment, and may get reported to the dean, thats about it. if the professor is making an example they can choose to make them fail the whole course automatically or force them to withdraw the class. this isnt expel worthy though. things that are expel worthy or severe violence, or academic dismissal(you fail too many classes on too many semesters), or you have a cheating ring.
I think it’s not so steep if students are told beforehand.
Tell them what counts as cheating. Tell them the consequences. Tell them it’s serious.
In university I always had to sign a little text that informed us that we are not allowed to cheat and that doing so would lead to failing the test and potentially getting expelled.
Even if those students are told beforehand. Completely destroying any future chance on education because of a stupid thing they did once when you were young is not realistic.
Even in your example, they only get potentially expelled from a single school.
You’re right, you definitely should treat sex offenders way harsher.
Also if a school says “don’t do X or you WILL fail the test and MIGHT get expelled” and then you proceed to do X then I think it’s on you and not ‘bad treatment’ at all. Especially if you do X repeatedly.
I did have one student fail for using AI. It was such an awful submission.
I also had multiple students that I believe used AI to help in the creation of some assignments, but I built in presentations including Q&A to ensure they could speak to the subject.
No situation I came across was bad enough to warrant expulsion except for one case of blatant plagiarism in which a student had accessed another students computer and reworded a major assignment, but this had nothing to do with AI.
Bonus: I regularly ran in-class activities where I’d split the class into small groups on the Human side and on the AI side and give them the same tasks to complete. Humans always won.
Honestly, if you get caught doing this, you should be expelled and blacklisted from all colleges and universities by SSN, as well as put on an international registry.
that doesnt really fit the crime. in most universities you will get automatic zero on that assignment, and may get reported to the dean, thats about it. if the professor is making an example they can choose to make them fail the whole course automatically or force them to withdraw the class. this isnt expel worthy though. things that are expel worthy or severe violence, or academic dismissal(you fail too many classes on too many semesters), or you have a cheating ring.
That’s awful steep. I dislike AI as much as the next guy, but as a former college prof I don’t think I could see myself being that heavy handed.
Fail the paper, sure, but depending on past submissions I’d consider an alternative assignment. Otherwise, good luck when you take the program again.
I think it’s not so steep if students are told beforehand. Tell them what counts as cheating. Tell them the consequences. Tell them it’s serious.
In university I always had to sign a little text that informed us that we are not allowed to cheat and that doing so would lead to failing the test and potentially getting expelled.
Even if those students are told beforehand. Completely destroying any future chance on education because of a stupid thing they did once when you were young is not realistic.
Even in your example, they only get potentially expelled from a single school.
Yeah true. The blacklisting goes way too far.
Brother there isn’t even a national sex offender registry. You want to treat students who use AI worse than we treat pedophiles?
You’re right, you definitely should treat sex offenders way harsher.
Also if a school says “don’t do X or you WILL fail the test and MIGHT get expelled” and then you proceed to do X then I think it’s on you and not ‘bad treatment’ at all. Especially if you do X repeatedly.
I did have one student fail for using AI. It was such an awful submission.
I also had multiple students that I believe used AI to help in the creation of some assignments, but I built in presentations including Q&A to ensure they could speak to the subject.
No situation I came across was bad enough to warrant expulsion except for one case of blatant plagiarism in which a student had accessed another students computer and reworded a major assignment, but this had nothing to do with AI.
Bonus: I regularly ran in-class activities where I’d split the class into small groups on the Human side and on the AI side and give them the same tasks to complete. Humans always won.
What good will that do?