Look man at this point saying either party has a monopoly on pedophilia is sort of ridiculous. It’s very obviously a rich/powerful thing, not a left/right thing.

I don’t see how anyone doesn’t understand that at some point. Diddy’s arrest was less than 24 hours ago.

No, but the idea that any random white guy could get away with what Trump gets away with is also laughable. Since 2016 there have been a million and one politicians trying to act Trumpian, and none of them enjoyed the nearly success Trump has.

For reasons beyond my comprehension, Trump seems to have this larger than life persona that has allowed him to escape scandal after scandal that would doom literally any other politician.

As a fun sidenote, look up DC Mayor Marion Barry. Dude made Trump look pedestrian.

I’m convinced a lot of those “punch a Nazi” people just wanted an excuse to be violent, and just joined the movement because it gave them an excuse to be violent. In another universe they are joining those three percenter militias.

Have fun with your SO and your brother-husbands.

Jesus Christ the projection. If you think everyone who has an issue with open relationships is mentally unsound, you’re gonna have to fix the vast majority of the country.

Every time I abided by an open relationship ,I was just enabling a super shitty situation. My friends have similar experiences.

You claim that I’m relying on anecdotal evidence, but so are you. I don’t see why your comment is in any way more valid than my comment.

But hey have fun with your girlfriend having sex with other dudes, most likely with a lot more ease than you can have sex with other women. If you’re really super secure in your way of life, then my disapproval shouldn’t bother you.

Again, not pressured. Seen other guys pressured, and seen them suffer.

I’ve seen people claim open relationships are working in exactly two scenarios:

• A few months before the relationship irreparably falls apart, in a way that clearly feels forced.
• On the internet, where there is absolutely zero context.

It is in no way shape or form toxic masculinity to want to be in a monogamous relationship. It is also not toxic masculinity to expect your partner won’t bail to screw other dudes, or think that your partner pushing for an “ethical” non monogamous relationship after years of monogamy is anything but ethnical.

We wouldn’t even be having this conversation if genders were flipped. You’re basically attempting to weaponize feminism to justify the mistreatment of men.

A lot of words to say that you’re not in a committed relationship.

This is basic relationship stuff. Also if you’re in a longer term relationship, bailing for the sole purpose of fucking around is beyond shitty. manipulating your partner so you can fuck around while still having their emotional support is even worse.

All of this is very well understood when a man is shitty to a women. Yet when the reverse is true there’s a million different excuses that pour out of the woodwork.

I’ve never seen a successful open relationship. It always ends poorly, it always comes out that the man felt pressured, and it always comes out that part of the reason they let themselves suffer for this long is because everyone else acted like this was normal. The only time I’ve ever “met” someone in a successful open relationship is online, where there’s absolutely no context.

Idk I basically stopped talking about this in mixed gender company in real life. My guy friends get it, my SO gets it, and a few close female friends get it. However most women I meet would treat a statement like this as an attack on them, even if they themselves aren’t engaging in this type of behavior.

Yeah so unless there was a complete overhaul that involved firing multiple layers of management maybe putting more load on the grid isn’t the best idea.

The title of this sub is super ironic. Most Elon spam is just people making fun of him.

Like yeah I get it he’s an awful person, horrible father, and bad CEO. I really don’t need to hear about that multiple times daily.

Like at this point I’d appreciate it if you guys just switched up your billionaire for a bit. It’s football season. Jimmy Haslam is a shitty person who paid a serial rapist hundreds of millions of dollars to be the worst starting quarterback in the NFL. Can we get some posts about him?

I feel like there are a lot of systemic problems with the electrical grid in California that need to be addressed before projects like this happen.

As far as I can tell there has never been any sort of reckoning among management at California utilities for the decades of underinvestment and mismanagement.

Again, my SO has never shown interest in “ethnical non monogamy”. She was actually a lot quicker to pass judgment on the subject when it first entered the public zeitgeist. I came to my conclusions about ethnical non monogamy after meeting people who practiced that IRL and watching their relationships implode. My SO would make it clear that she doesn’t approve of that lifestyle and didn’t want to make any moves to form direct friendships with them as opposed to simply being in the same social circle.

Are you in a relationship?

My friends have better luck, but it’s a constant grind. Also, as far as I can tell, a guy’s chance of getting into a relationship is basically a thin proxy for how attractive he is. Meanwhile for women the chances seem to be proxy for a combination of genuine kindness and realistic expectations. Any women with remotely realistic expectations is off the market in six weeks flat.

The Klan should try to recruit a graphic designer first.

No my SO is a wonderful woman who is a feminist in the sense that she does not enjoy any form of gender roles. That was extremely common when we first started dating. We are both pretty happy in our relationship.

My frustration comes from watching a lot of my guy friends struggle. Just because I’m not the one being cucked doesn’t mean I appreciate seeing it in my social circles or appreciate seeing that behavior being defended.

Again, there’s a lot of dialogue about how women need to stick up for other women. The idea that men have to be in it for themselves is ridiculous.

That being said, I would have every right to be bitter if my SO pressured me into an open relationship, and my friend group watched because a small amount of women were very supportive of the idea and nobody wanted to confront them. That’s an extremely fucked up position to put anyone in.

Look at this point I know more women with unrealistic relationship expectations than men.

The world has changed a ton in the past twenty years. There’s been a lot of discussion about toxicity in regards to male gender roles, and fundamentals changes to what’s acceptable for a man to expect in a relationship.

There hasn’t really been that discussion in women. While many women have perfectly fair expectations, there are a lot of women who will expect a man to completely reject gendered expectations of them, while having a ton of expectations of a man. It’s almost a joke among my single male friends that the more vocal someone is about being a feminist, the more likely they’ll expect you to pay for the date.

There’s also a subculture of women behaving in ways that would be considered objectively toxic a decade ago, but have been normalized due to the whole oppressor/oppressed culture war narrative. I’ve seen women bail on long term relationships in ways that are 100 percent because they just want to sleep around. I’ve seen women push their husband into an “ethically polyamaorous” relationship that always is extremely one sided. I’ve also seen a lot of women with an “I can do better” mentality that nobody in a relationship would have to put up with.

I’m not saying women are universally awful or anything. I’m just saying I think we need to have the same conversation around how women behave that we had in regards to how men behave.

I feel like I would be more okay with this is snap didn’t still have a lot of very real flaws.

Look man I don’t know how old you are, but this type of comment is what I’d expect a teenager to write. it’s not just that you’re acting like a massive asshole; You’re using insults and arguments that I’d expect a teenager to come up with. It’s the sort of argument that only works if the vast majority of people in the audience are already both deeply in your corner and also immature. Otherwise you’d just come off looking like a massive jackass.

Do you have any experience talking to people outside of an echo chamber? How does that go for you?