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Reality has an anti-robot bias.

As so often happens, this downplays the extent to which the batshit was within them all along.

Yep, i mean the whole thing started because an economics blogger convinced Yud to start his own site, and that blogger is the source of the great filter idea. (Or at least the farming, the idea precedes him). It started with Robin Hanson. This fear of being destroyed before we take our place in the stars has been in the LW community from the start.

Also notable that apparently Siskind thinks nuclear non-proliferation sorta worked because people talked it out and decided to be mature about it

This is his claim about everything, including how we got gay rights. Real if all you have is a hammer stuff.

Yeah and missing the point that a lot of people think ‘some ideas are so shit they shouldn’t be debated the right way’ esp not ideas about others who are not you and stuff we have debated (and fought over) again and again already. It is like the IRA, Kirk needs to be lucky once, trans people/minorities/university professors(*) need to be lucky every time, again and again, forever. This is just the dumbest level of object level vs meta level thinking out there. When somebody enters the marketplace with sawdust they claim is flour every week you toss them out, don’t let them in next time. And you should notice they only try to sell this ‘flour’ to the poor.

*: my second point, Piper is also very full of shit here. You know what happened to uni professors who debated/corrected/were women/poc in his space? They got put on the TPUSA watchlist and got death and rape threats. He was part of the organisation who ran that database. So this imagined idealized platonic Kirk shaped object isn’t even real. Hell you can see in debates the tricks he pulls so his side thinks he wins. That creepy smile he makes after a point that he knows is bullshit, that is to knock people off balance so people react oddly (as it is a really creepy smile) and don’t react to the dumb shit he just said. See this clip for example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Jrsy1aB6OSk (it cuts off before she talks about how creepy his smile is). Note he is lying about the fetus thing, and if this wasn’t a high stress debate and people got time to think about things they would just reply with ‘so a dolphin fetus is a dolphin little human being?’. But that is professional debaters vs college students for you. This is not a man who was interested in truth or having his mind changed. And this smile is not some incident, he does it in other places. But his audience is preprimed on thinking they are the logic and reason people, so they consider somebody going ‘what the fuck did you just do with your face’ as a way to dodge the argument, so in their eyes this is a win for him.

I find that all these debatebro types have some of these tricks, in addition to often controlling the mic. Peterson refuses to explain, Shapiro demands you accept his premise from the start ‘for the argument’ (yeah if you are right you are right, but the debate is about if you are right not ‘assume im right’). The ‘I refuse your question’ guy is simply somebody who noticed one of those debatebro tricks and refused to go along with it. (the patron saint, may your hair remain long, and your bluetooth have good connections forever). Note that this prob doesn’t work on the more experienced debatebros as they would have prepared an answer for ‘why can’t we both have lgbt people and economic stability’ and it gives them a way to spout hate and misinfo again. As all work is skilled work, being a bad faith debate bro propagandist is also a skill (which the Koch brothers paid Kirk well for).

Related to this “Those who walk away from debatebros”.

I know it is not accurate, but some liberty has been taken with the statements.

Fyi that manufacturer does not make 30 06 ammo. So it isnt true. Story goes that the source for the whole messages story is Crowder, that he dropped it before the mainstream news. Not a reliable source, wtf media.

E: turns out I was wrong sorry about that. But due to the casings we now know he was likely enough to be a groyper for me to call him one. I’ll update the first post with a link to my skeet about it. But the song he used was in a ‘groyper war’ playlist. The song didn’t make sense to me anyway.

exhales not sure this is weed dude.

Re dead universe.

That fixes the great filter problem for them.

I don’t think he has been relevant, he was on some 1 X debates 20 !X shows, where he showed the creepiest smile after being wrong about latin, and that was it. For the relevance of things I heard about him.

Turns out he was relevant to the right whoever. As he apparently kept pushing the epstein link (I thought he was dismissing the epstein link) so much so that Laura Loomer decided she never wanted to hear from the guy a few days ago.

Just very weird from what I can tell of the people of his ilk, for too online leftwingers he was a joke. Compared to a shapiro/crowder.

You can’t exactly carry a set of encyclopedias up to the top of the book depository or wherever without attracting attention.

Not sure about that, I don’t want to talk about specifics as I rather not have people know exactly where I live but you could do a lot on the roofs of our uni without people noticing. Doors were not even locked.

But it makes sense for a shooter to bring something they know the hight off, like their personally signed copy of HPMOR.

During the lead of usual speed incident?

Yep we were, we were talking about hiring jetskis. Strange how they never used the pictures of him on the jetski in the news like how they do with all the white guys who shoot up a place. Wait, that means they know he was innocent just like we do.

Hahaha, yes I lied! Now my basilisk simulation will be trained to lie more. I’m actually very trustworthy irl, I just make a persona here so my copies are not me! Also Charlotte did the right thing.

Lol that The alignment alignment problem figure.

Yeah, and he had motive because of his intense pain, still a weird Rationalist adjacent type guy was not a likely subject. And sadly we knew the latter already.

It has been long long ago, but I recall that when London put CCTVs everywhere the chief of police there admitted it had not caused a drop in crime not helped them catch criminals. But he still wanted to place more of them and more money. Just a strange sort of welfare project for pervert police people.

E: and look all that police power, and he gets caught be cause he admitted it to his dad.

Yeah, to me the whole finding of casings makes no sense. Like if you put a message on them, leave them there. (also bolt your gun if you might want to shoot it again). Just odd. Also odd they don’t mention the messages on them directly. Which normally get plastered all over social media. (Which is bad btw, don’t spread extremist messaging without context, I really hope they finally learned this, and this isn’t a case of them hiding the message to make it sound more extreme than it was).

But yes, I spoke too soon. Anyway, as I’m the negative Cassandra, let me say this. We can rule out it being a Rationalist, we have not found a copy of HPMOR on the scene as far as I can tell.

E: update on the writing, might be wrong

Congrats on the new job.

Yeah, I think the whole ‘quickly getting away without leaving a trace’ is more sign of some training. But, this is reduced in being likely by the whole FBI just being filled with incompetent goons, podcasters, racists, who are now playing ‘find the person of color’ and not doing the actual FBI things.

I mean I have no high opinion of groypers, so I don’t think they are well trained soldiers or something so take that into account. Exmil just has a higher willingness to kill people.

But yes, very good to point out thanks. Esp as Evans has experience in these things, and can generally be relied upon. (Apart from his views on 40k being too rosy).

We can prob rule out a Luigi style killer as there was no shellcasing with words on it found as far as I can tell.

Sorry not in that profession, but if somebody who is reacts, I’d also like an answer to the question of: ‘if a member if one of your organisations commits suicide, claiming sexual abuse, and is not your patient, would it be unethical to claim they are crazy/cast doubts on their ability to interpret the real reality, as an basically embedded psychiatrist?’. More of a question for an ethics committee I guess.

Yep, he sucked. Big question I have is why. He is a propagandist in the ‘free speech on campus’ wars, and they won the battle and unis are caving and banning free speech. Of all the targets he makes no sense to me (not that any of them do to me, assassination has a very poor track record, people still whine about Pim in the Netherlands, and pretend all violence comes from the left (despite reality proving otherwise)).

So considering his history with groypers, who got big partially attacking Kirk for not being extreme enough, wouldn’t be shocked if it is a groyper. Or an exmil who lost a kid in a shooting.

I mean why shoot the guy that looks like a budget steven crowder and a broken stretchy arms toy doll had a teleporter accident.

I have spend the last few hours looking through all my social media posts making sure I delete any bad things I have said about witches.