much of the language and ideas you expressed are more in line with if some great violence or trauma was inflicted

It was, on me. And it happens because assholes like you normalize abuse and defend aggressors instead of victims.

It does not line up with an unwanted head pat.

It does, the child’s consent was disregarded and her personal space was violated. This is unacceptable.

I am still not convinced you know what a pat on the head is compared to a punch in the face.

I’m still not convinced you realize you’re literally trying to defend abuse.

Fuck off.

empirical data was also used to determine that Africans and women didn’t have consciousness and were just mindless beasts.

No, it wasn’t. Empirical data was fabricated. There was never evidence to support those claims, which is why we no longer believe them.

instead of basing decisions on your diet entirely from an emotional reaction

I’m not, I’m basing decisions on evidence. Fuck you for projecting your idiocy onto me.

perhaps it’s best to determine your diet based on hard facts of nutritional value and environmental impact.

Which includes eating meat instead of plants. But I personally do it because we know animals feel fear and pain, and we do not know that about plants.

Why are you fighting in favor of needless slaughter? Fucking psychopaths here.

No, I’m speaking as if she was touched without her consent. Because she was. We shouldn’t normalize that.

Children should know that they have autonomy. Children should be taught the importance of consent so they can protect themselves. Adults should know better than to touch others without consent.

I referred to the fact that in certain cultures, a persons head is a seen as especially sacred.

Oh? I see; Singapore is such a place. I did not know that.

In those cultures, touching the head is not “relative tame”.

I live in the United States. Here, a pat on the head is condescending if unwelcome, but not as creepy as, say, touching a shoulder. Also, Our president is a pedophile. I am wary of anything that could be construed as normalizing the violation of consent and boundaries.

I hope you learned something, but try to listen to understand, not only to react. Good luck, and all the best.

I’m very concerned for victims of abuse. I wish I could help them.

Your comment does make more sense with the cultural context. Thank you for clarifying. I apologize for insinuating that you had any ill intent, I lacked the information to interpret your comment any other way.

Mentally ill people are not fucking around. They are also not finding out because they don’t always understand what they did or why others reacted,

Good point. Ideally, we would not have such a mental illness epidemic in the first place, and some people blur the line between “mentally ill” and “creep”, but in the interests of not harming the innocent we should be cautious to exercise undue force.

They just need help. Actually i think you might be one of those people.

My christian parents have been hitting me since before I could think. I am seeking help, but I live in the US. Everything’s slow and the therapists have not been good. I’m trying a fifth one in a week or so.

My kids have like all kids acted inappropriately in public at times, and i don’t want to know how you would respond to it if they accidentally invaded your personal space in the process.

At young ages, that is typical. They are still developing, learning boundaries. I do not advocate hitting children. Assuming the old man was not mentally ill, he should have known better.

Yeah. I realize I can be intense sometimes, but I think it’s very important to advocate for those who can’t advocate for themselves. My autonomy was violently disregarded by my parents. I want to protect others because no one protected me. I don’t know the best way to do that, so I try to use what I’ve got. What I’ve got is a broken foundation and a lot of anger, fear, and pain. It’s easy to lash out, though probably not the most effective way of getting through to people.

Thanks for caring.

I pity your children.

Shut the fuck up. I was violently indoctrinated by my abusive christian parents. I know too much about it. I lived with a god in my head for decades. I know no one has good reason to pretend any god exists. It’s deadly, selfish delusion every time. It’s fear, an inability to say “I don’t know”. They submit because they are afraid of their violent abuser, and they call it “love”. It’s stupid. It’s point-blank stupid.

I know why people lie. They’re scared. But that’s not good enough. Their choices are killing us all. It is intolerable. There is no excuse for it.

The hard part is getting them to admit it. They’ve trapped themselves in circular logic. They’re smug about it, proud of their wrong choices. They refuse to apply critical thought because they’re selfish, lazy, scared, incapable of facing reality. They need constant pushback from all directions to counter the constant reinforcement of their baseless ideas they give themselves and each other.

I can’t deconvert anybody. They have to be confronted with sufficient evidence to trigger a change. Barring that, the least we can do is tell them how wrong they are with hopes it will sink in later.

It should be this simple: all life depends on the truth that defines it. There is only one truth. Falsehoods divide us, threaten all life. There is no evidence, argument, or reason to believe in god’s existence. Therefore, it is in everybody’s best interests not to pretend there is a god. The alternative is needless suffering and death.

I can’t understand why that isn’t enough for people. Their shortsighted idiocy is killing us now. We need to do more, faster.

The golden rule covers this.

Put yourself in the girl’s shoes. I would rather not be touched by random strangers. I hate the fact that stupid, selfish internet people have normalized my lack of autonomy. I hate you for being a coward while feigning moral superiority.

Are you going to condone violence just because violence was done to you?

Literally yes, it’s called defense. Would you let yourself be killed instead of fighting back? The old man was the aggressor. It would be wrong to let him act that way with no consequences. I care more about victims than their abusers, personally. If you choose not to fight at all, you’re choosing to help the abusers.

I think the point stands even if we ignore this specific incident: If you touch someone in public without their consent, especially a child, you can and probably should be harmed in retaliation. Boundaries and consent are essential. Fuck around, find out.

My parents hit me before I could think. Instead of stopping them, you’re defending their mindset.

Fuck you. Children are people.

Transphobia is often justified with bible verses. “God created male and female, god made you perfect just the way you are – oh, except the foreskin, he was very clear that we should mutilate your genitals with more risks than benefits. But we’re going to pretend it’s not mutilation, and instead project our own heinous moral failings onto people getting medical procedures to help them live happier, healthier lives.”

My christian parents deserve worse than death for the abuse they inflicted on me and my brothers, abuse they are still actively normalizing. They think they’re going to heaven for hitting their own children.

Personally i think that son should realise dad is at a stage where they should not go outside on their own

I’m not sure son gives a shit about his father or the victim, too many dollar signs in his eyes as he seeks “justice”.

The old man was in the wrong, and he was a victim of violence.

The old man was in the wrong and didn’t learn shit. He was not a victim. He made an unacceptable choice.

When your kids are the ones being touched, I hope you tell them the truth: that you personally encouraged their abusers.

Can you explain what you meant by “especially thier heads”? Where is it acceptable for a child to be touched without their consent, according to you?

with functional immigration rules one can expect nicer people to be let in and bad people are forbidden to enter.

How do you propose we determine who will commit a crime before letting them in? Why do locals get a pass to you for committing the same crimes at similar rates as foreigners?

I think someone is misdirecting your anger to the wrong targets. Most immigrants do not want to harm you. Billionaires, on the other hand, love it when we harm each other instead of them. They don’t want to lose their wealth, their power; they want to widen the gap even more. They want to control us through fearmongering and deception.

People are normalizing child abuse. It’s a huge problem.

But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.

And the old man and every other pervert have been encouraged to offend again. Really fucked up that you’re not getting this. The old man did something wrong and harmful, and now is pretending to be the victim.

But now the message is, “old people can touch whoever they want and you’ll be punished for stopping them.”

Earlier, Yeo told Singapore news outlet Channel News Asia that he had patted the little girl’s head because she “was very adorable”.

Stupid, shallow, selfish.

“Old people like to pat young children’s heads,” he said.

That does not make it okay. What the actual fuck?

He added that he started hurting hours after the fall, and that he was taking paracetamol for his pain.

I feel zero sympathy, dude should not have touched a child.

In another post, the elderly man’s son thanked the police for responding to the matter quickly, adding that he sincerely hoped “justice will be served for my father”.

Justice was almost served, but apparently he didn’t get his ass kicked hard enough.

We’ll never know, you never tried. I’m not doing this because I enjoy it. I want to spare anyone from suffering the fate that befell me. There are more victims every day, but you don’t give a shit.

Fuck you.