This is my main instance. I have this name on these other instances in case of instance closings: discuss.online, piefed.zip, lemmy.wtf, multiverse.soulism.net, nord.pub, lemmy.today, lemmings.world (closing).

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  • Meh, I’m fine with it. I think if you read enough people saying something, you can pick out that there is probably some truth to it.

    It’s not like they could come to Lemmy for info, because all they’d find is “Capitalism sucks! Eat the rich! Revolution!!” on every single post, regardless of subject. I posted a workout routine to a workout sub here once, and it quickly devolved into shit like “Cheeto man doesn’t want people to work out.” Lemmy posters are fucking obsessed with making everything political. Even health stuff.

    So I don’t think Reddit is too bad for their use case in this scenario. I came here from Reddit, but I’m on Reddit more than Lemmy again. Reddit has more people. More subjects. And less politics.














  • Odds even better from a brand-spankin’ new 1-month-old account,

    Obivously you didn’t look at my profile where I listed my accounts. My original account is Lemmy.today. Then it was lemmings.world, but it’s closing. So I created this one. I am not a new 1-month-old account.

    All that info is right in my profile.

    I have been on Lemmy for 3 years, bub.

    I think I’d bet money I did, in fact.

    So you bet money that someone on Lemmy who says they are not a republican, is a republican? Um…doubt it. But if true, you are taking Lemmy way too seriously.

    Again tho, if I were republican, wouldn’t it be better for me to vote Republican? Why would I vote third party if I were a republican? Seems kinda the long way around, don’t you think?



  • It’s essentially unknowable, because the moment we remove third party votes, we can’t say for certain that margins the major parties would’ve ended up with

    But you didnd’t say that in your reply to me. You specifically said, “Disproving your point technically” and “but rather to refute your point that Trump would’ve won without the third party voters.”

    Also, I think it is knowable by numbers. I specifically said that if all the people who voted third party in 2024 prez election had voted for Harris instead, she still would have lost the election. The numbers show it.

    We don’t base it on popular vote and NEVER have. It’s Electoral votes. Now I wish we went by popular vote. And I’m all for going by popular vote. But that hasn’t happened yet, and wasn’t a reality in 2024, which is the time frame for my example.

    I’m behind ya on wanting popular vote. But you were incorrect in you orginal reply by implying that my statement was wrong. The numbers prove it.

    The popular vote/electoral vote argument has been happening during every election in my lifetime. I ready for that to change, but that doesn’t make my statement or facts incorrect.

    Harris lost to Trump by such a large margin, that even if 3rd party voters had voted for her instead, Trump still would have won.

    If you wanna point fingers, point them at non-voters. That’s what would have changed the election.





  • Popular vote doesn’t decide the election and NEVER has decided the presidential election. U.S. Constitution (Article II, Section 1) has always required the president to be chosen by the Electoral College or by the House of Representatives in rare cases where no one gets a majority of electoral votes.

    The popular vote is only used by states to help choose their electors. It has never overridden or replaced the Electoral College.

    Your popular-vote math is correct about shifting all ~2.92 million actual third-party votes to Harris flips the popular vote. But the presidency is decided by the Electoral College.

    In the three big swing states you mentioned:

    Pennsylvania: Trump’s margin (120,266) > third-party votes (~68k–92k) → PA does not flip.

    Michigan + Wisconsin: yes, they flip (+25 EV).

    Result: Harris ends at 251 EV, Trump at 287 EV. Trump still wins the presidency.

    So the numbers actually confirm my point: even if every person who voted third-party had voted for Harris instead, Trump still becomes president.

    All of this is straight from the official FEC certified results.

    The popular vote does not matter, and has not mattered for a while. The Electoral vote decides the election. Which by the way, BOTH parties refuse to change.