Fen-phen! This shit was a wonder drug for dieters, until they found out it kills you. Maintenance Phase did a wonderful episode on it years back.

Ehhh, there’s still lively debate, but the general consensus is that the whole “we’ll deport the Jews/undesirables” thing was mostly a smokescreen, and the plan was always to either place them in work camps or kill the ones that couldn’t work. The camps came AFTER a lengthy campaign of extermination against “useless eaters” such as the elderly, the chronically ill, and the mentally and physically disabled, which was billed as “well they’re a huge drain on state resources.”

Also, the US is one of the easiest countries to immigrate to. Canada, most of the EU, and much the Western world at large will really only let you immigrate permanently if you have an ancestral claim that you can directly prove, or if you have certain degrees or skills.

I envy their optimism at claiming they’ll end up in prison over a grave.

This hardly matters. Trump has always said he’s not going to respect the rule of law, and now, with really unprecedented total control of all 3 branches of government (as in, the people that were elected and already there support HIM SPECIFICALLY, not just his party affiliation), he’s in a prime spot to just do whatever he likes.

I think it’ll wind up as slavery. Instead of actually deporting huge numbers of people, they’ll go “wow so it turns out that’s really hard” and use them as prison labor instead. You don’t have to pay prison laborers.

See: Ohio basically trying everything it could to avoid enacting legal marijuana.

This is the same guy who, earlier in the week, tweeted that he wanted to drag Democrat politician’s “bloody, beaten bodies” through the street.

See, the issue is that most of Trump’s policies didn’t come from him in 2016 - he went out and hung out with dictators and played golf and held rallies while his Cabinet did almost all of the heavy lifting. Remember that several of his staffers said they couldn’t get him to pay attention to important things like briefings unless they had something positive ABOUT HIM PERSONALLY every two sentences.

That’s how a lot of this shit is gonna get done - dozens of Yes Men all implementing whatever part of The Plan they’re supposed to implement from their appointed office, so Trump doesn’t take the heat for it.

The CIA has good reason to believe Trump gave information, because in the span of several weeks after a private meeting with Putin while Trump was president, a whole pile of their Russian and Eastern European intelligence agents and assets dropped off the face of the Earth or wound up dead.

Trump has promised, in VERY few uncertain terms, to deliver a genocide here in the US. Mass deportations of immigrants were one of his big “to-dos” on day one, including deputizing National Guard and police units to assist ICE. This is combined with an AG hopeful who wants to “see Democrat politican’s bodies dragged through the streets”, and Steve Bannon, who helped author a document that basically plans to outlaw homosexuality, being transgender, and (probably) conversion camps, if not outright death camps. You can look all this up, it’s all been well reported on.

This is on top of Trump being close friends with Netanyahu, so congrats - by not voting, you voted for two genocides.

Courting racists is effective because disillusioned leftists DO TEND to metamorphose into racists and fascists over the long term. They get upset their party and politics are stagnating, get upset at the lack of political traction, and wind up eventually blaming other people. You see it more often in young people, but it definitely happens.

The big issue is that Trump could’ve gotten onstage and started telling stories from Lake Woebegone for two and a half hours and a large portion of his cult would’ve hailed it as a masterstroke of political theory.

Ah, but it works both ways. One great way to radicalize young men is sexual frustration (see: incels). The right has mastered this FAR better than the left ever thought about it.

“But Trump will stop me having to hear about all these wars.”

Fixed for you. I heard the same from my mom - that it was a REAL SHAME Biden wasn’t trying to force Russia and Ukraine to peace.

Yeah. I think MUSK bought it because it sounded cool and he got suckered into it. I think he got the funding for it because the people who funded him (like the Saudis) saw an opportunity to get an easy mark to break the system for them.

I see you have met my stepfather.

Bah, I don’t think there’s a chance in hell any of this doesn’t get some form of implementation. Remember, Trump didn’t actually do a lot of anything in his first admin. Most of his day-to-day, most of the actual decision making was left to the Cabinet. Which is gonna be stacked with Heritage Foundation picks and the people who actually want this shit.

As far as “government action resulting in mass violence”, one of his campaign speeches was him talking about unleashing the military and the police for “one really bad, really rough day”, which sounds an awful lot like a government action resulting in mass violence.

And that’s if you were lucky and your Mom or Dad didn’t just either give you up for adoption or leave you in the fields one night and wash their hands of you.

Basically this. They’re all neofeudalists with a thin coat of “but it’s business and not a divine mandate” on top. Thiel specifically has made no secrets of his desire to destroy federal power, and effectively just reimagine the country as a bunch of feudal city-states, loosely linked by something resembling a monarch (who isn’t Thiel because he’s actually terrified of being in the public eye for anything).