As an electronics designer professionally I just want to chime in.
With current infrastructure, it is very very very difficult to not go bankrupt and making consumer products in the EU the price for these sort of small products would be double to triple and of the same quality (I.e. shit products would also be shit, just much more expensive).
We need to be investing in automation infrastructure in low cost of living areas to get anywhere near competitive. Even current PCB manufacturers in Italy, Portugal, and Hungary are useful for B2B industrial, medical, and aerospace products mostly because the cost to assemble the PCBs is simply too high for consumers to consider buying.
Look at fairphone. They are designed in NL, software written in the EU, and still produced in China (searching for better conditions though) and like 90% of consumers that consider them won’t buy them specifically because of price point.
Designed in the EU, produced in china (and software in the EU) is already a large step up because development costs and profits go to EU companies, even if produced in China. Small companies have no other choice.
I’ll bite the top voted post - this is not the right mentality to have. OP just bought from an EU company and wanted to post to our community, shouldn’t we be a bit more encouraging? The EU consumer electronics industry simply isn’t there yet for the charger case - see my other post
In my opinion it does not belong here. I appreciate the hype and effort of trying to buy European ,but there is no reason calling this European simply because the distributor is European or they have put their name on the product
We have the same issue here in Denmark. Super markets have started marking European products with a star on the price tag. They do mark Californian raisins as European, simply because a European brand buys them from the US and distributes them.
I agree. My point though is, that this is not relevant. For me, it’s not about changing all purchases to somethingt that is European. I see it as much more valuable to choose European over other brands when you have the choice. In this case I don’t see it as a choice. You buy Chinese, or Chinese distributed by a European company. It’s the same in the end, besides you having paid much more for the same product. If you do buy European wine over American though, or meat, or services, it makes a lot more sense
European! (Built in China)
As an electronics designer professionally I just want to chime in.
With current infrastructure, it is very very very difficult to not go bankrupt and making consumer products in the EU the price for these sort of small products would be double to triple and of the same quality (I.e. shit products would also be shit, just much more expensive).
We need to be investing in automation infrastructure in low cost of living areas to get anywhere near competitive. Even current PCB manufacturers in Italy, Portugal, and Hungary are useful for B2B industrial, medical, and aerospace products mostly because the cost to assemble the PCBs is simply too high for consumers to consider buying.
Look at fairphone. They are designed in NL, software written in the EU, and still produced in China (searching for better conditions though) and like 90% of consumers that consider them won’t buy them specifically because of price point.
Designed in the EU, produced in china (and software in the EU) is already a large step up because development costs and profits go to EU companies, even if produced in China. Small companies have no other choice.
I’ll bite the top voted post - this is not the right mentality to have. OP just bought from an EU company and wanted to post to our community, shouldn’t we be a bit more encouraging? The EU consumer electronics industry simply isn’t there yet for the charger case - see my other post
In my opinion it does not belong here. I appreciate the hype and effort of trying to buy European ,but there is no reason calling this European simply because the distributor is European or they have put their name on the product
We have the same issue here in Denmark. Super markets have started marking European products with a star on the price tag. They do mark Californian raisins as European, simply because a European brand buys them from the US and distributes them.
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Most of the world’s manufacturing is in Asia. Not just electronics, but textiles, clothing, shoes, tools, decorations and thousands of other things.
But if we use the same logic, we shouldn’t say an iPhone is American since it’s made in China.
I agree. My point though is, that this is not relevant. For me, it’s not about changing all purchases to somethingt that is European. I see it as much more valuable to choose European over other brands when you have the choice. In this case I don’t see it as a choice. You buy Chinese, or Chinese distributed by a European company. It’s the same in the end, besides you having paid much more for the same product. If you do buy European wine over American though, or meat, or services, it makes a lot more sense