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I’ll take this opportunity to remind people that Tesla vehicles are surveillance devices, and that the cops have access to facial recognition software. Plan your life accordingly.
Remember to never bring your phone with you and use the woods to escape.
Seriously good advice. Particularly since you can and will get charged with a terrorism offense. Let’s be honest here, people are going after Tesla because of what Musk is doing in the government. That means that people are using violence and intimidation in order to intimidate a civilian population or influence government policy. I really doubt that prosecutors will not have trouble making such charges stick. Just because you’re the good guys, doesn’t mean you won’t spend a lot of years in prison if you get caught.
I’m sure you know this but freedom fighters have long been called terrorists to try to delegitimize their cause. It takes a very special kind of bravery to risk everything and more for what you believe in, Knowing that you’ll be slandered and slurred by what you’re fighting against. I just hope in the end they’re all vindicated.
On another note, it’s wild that when the other side commits the same actions listed above it is never officially labeled as terrorism. We’re all living in crazy land.
Remember when the j6 crowd smeared literal shit on the wh walls. They all got a pardon.
600 mass shootings a year. 20+ targeted white nationalist massacres have happened since 2016, including the largest mass casualty event in american history in vegas, and none of those people were terrorists.
Yet, every one of them had a manifesto, and it was covered in every new outlet. No terrorist.
Let’s call it like it is– this is nazi germany now. Brownshirts were deputized eight years ago and people only just made the connection when he pardoned them for trying to help his coup. (Something totally unprecedented and definitely not a direct parallel to weimar germany both allowing Hitler to create a gang of street fighters but also allowing them to do the putsch, and then giving Hitler a three year jail sentence, after which he reassembled the brown shirts and started the SA who then started killing Communists and burning down synagogues once Hitler won the chancellorship)
FWIW, the Vegas shooter did not have a manifesto and I don’t remember seeing any evidence that he was a white nationalist.
Thats crazy work. There was no motive determined bc he was just some psycho gambler with a gun obsession. Who does that sound like? A right winger.
Don’t ask me, go look at the FBI’s own statistics (if they still exist) on domestic terrorism and something insane like 90% of the violent offenses are committed by right wing terrorists. The murders, bombings, and assaults are all overwhelmingly right wing.
The conversation at hand is that terrorism is committed by conservatives who don’t care about the lives of people they don’t view as people. My bad, I forgot that one terrorist hadn’t written a manifesto.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not disagreeing with your general point that right-wing terrorism is ignored by the media. Just wanted to clarify that you said “every one of them had a manifesto” but the Vegas shooter did not. That said, a lot of the details of his life are things I associate with right-wingers: worked for Lockheed, owned rental properties, 2nd amendment, lots of cruises. Like you said, I would describe his motive as “disdain for other people/society” but for some reason that’s not considered terrorism.
Sorry for getting heated, I initially read it as nitpicking but scaled back my reply when I read it a few more times to fully understand what you were saying.
When I wrote the original comment I was just rattling off the most well known events and I honestly didn’t remember the Vegas shooter having not disclosed a motive or left clues.
At first it seemed like an attempt to derail the conversation but I went and doubled checked all the reporting to make sure I didn’t have it confused. You were right, and I got defensive. I didn’t want the heart of the message to get lost in the combing through of each individual culprits motive.
Either way, the dude was a piece of shit, and there’s 400 more open neonazis committing violence to pull from the database if we really want to make sure all our t’s are crossed and I’s dotted.
Thanks for the reply, and for understanding where I was coming from. I did not mean to come off condescending.
^ Yes, this is what actual violence and terrorism looks like.
(Expropriating some cars is not even close.)
Let’s be honest here. There is no violence. Expropriation is not violence.
The capitalist denial of a difference between people and things is a major foundation of fascism.
If you believe the reporting, there have been violent attacks on Tesla dealerships. And even if you are not personally committing a violent act, if you are at a protest when it happens, you’ll likely get charged too.
On a side note, don’t forget that our justice agencies and far-right militias have been known to send agents provocateur to such events to commit violent crimes to turn peaceful protests violent.
Burning cars because you dislike Musk isn’t terrorism.
Face paint in patterns to disrupt facial recognition and small rock in a shoe to change your gait