• IceFoxX@lemm.ee
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    17 hours ago

    No, absolutely not like Russia 2.0 The Chinese are taking a completely different approach to the Russians. The fact that people still think the Chinese are stupid is unbelievable…

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        7 hours ago

        Without China, Russia would no longer be able to act. The economy etc. would have collapsed completely long ago without China. China therefore has control over Russia and not vice versa. (Even North Korea now has more to say than Putin…) So China is tackling the global battle via cyberwar and economic warfare. It is also a way to overthrow other countries without war and the West is dependent on China. China is not sending its country back a century, but into the future. They are not rushing into a senseless and stupid war, but are waiting until the stupid Russians burn through the capacities worldwide with the Ukraine war. They are also waiting until America splinters completely and possibly takes Europe with it. It is absolutely not comparable with the brainless MeatGrindr bullshit from the Russians.

        I’m not saying that China won’t start a war, but they won’t do it as stupidly as the Russians. China is thinking several years ahead. Just future-oriented.

        So apart from nuclear weapons, China is much more dangerous for the West

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          6 hours ago

          If that’s the case then why are we still trading with China? Why isn’t tiktok banned? Russia is being openly punished and rejected but China, apparently so close with them, are not?

          I understood that capitalism, despite it’s flaws is the way the world has decided to prevent wars. If countries are so intertwined financially it can’t be of benefit to either party to war. If China values our business they won’t fuck with us. If Chinese companies and parties own interests in our country they won’t destroy it or even act against us, as aside from anything else we can sanction them by taking this property without any renumeration.

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            6 hours ago

            Because we have democratic laws and, as I said, China is not stupid but acts within the law (apart from cyberwarfare). The results of all this can now be seen with Trump, who is completely destroying democratic values. It is also enough to look at the technological difference between China and Russia. China also produces all the measurement while our measurement is also produced there. Underestimating the Chinese or comparing them with Russia is simply unrealistic.

            Let’s wait and see the results of Trump policies. In the end, the citizen has the last word when he starts the civil war.

            Btw. The tiktok ban showed how loyal the American population is to the Chinese government.

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              6 hours ago

              I guess that we consider the risk greater if we shut them out. What did you mean by measurement?

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                6 hours ago

                Almost the entire production in all areas is outsourced to China. Russia is only known for oil and its scrap technology.

                China can exist without the West (apart from ASML) but the West can no longer exist without China.

                I hate the translator + my phone xD