Hamas says it has launched a rocket attack towards the Tel Aviv area in central Israel for the first time in nearly four months. At least eight rockets were launched from the Rafah area in southern Gaza and several were intercepted, the Israeli military says. No injuries have been reported.

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    TIL killing 1143 people in one day at one location is not “en masse”.

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        Oh my bad, soldiers and police trying to protect concertgoers from getting slaughtered wholesale at a music festival are fair game. Do you hear yourself?

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          The soldiers mostly got killed in military bases. Which happen to be stationed right next to music festivals.

          Also a lot of soldiers dancing at that music festival. Nothing more fun than a rave next to a concentration camp.

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            Soldiers of an occupying force are fair game.

            Occupying what? That town has always been in Israeli territory.

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              “always” might be a bit of a strong word when referring to ownership of basically any part of that region.

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              Occupying Palestine. If you think Israel has a right to exist within the pre-1967 borders, then occupying Gaza and the West Bank.

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                Occupying Palestine. If you think Israel has a right to exist within the pre-1967 borders, then occupying Gaza and the West Bank.

                I beg of everyone, please read sources before forming a position on an issue. So much bloodshed could be avoided on all sides if people took the time to inform themselves before jumping to angry knee-jerk reactions.

                The kibbutz [Re’im] was established in 1949 by former Palmach members with the provisional name HaTzofim Vav

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re'im

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                  If the US were invaded by Australia, we would fight them on the shores of California and the fields of Pennsylvania, but we would also rain down hellfire on Perth and Sydney. I’m not sure why you think the history of the particular place the IOF soldiers were stationed at is relevant. That’s setting aside that the reason the occupation troops were there is to enforce the siege of Gaza that has been in place since 2007.

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                    I’m not sure why you think the history of the particular place the IOF soldiers were stationed at is relevant.

                    That’s where the music festival was on Oct 7, you know, the one where civilians were murdered in cold blood out of the blue? The thing that started this whole shitshow? Please allow me to reiterate:

                    I beg of everyone, please read sources before forming a position on an issue. So much bloodshed could be avoided on all sides if people took the time to inform themselves before jumping to angry knee-jerk reactions.

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        All of the Gaza death toll numbers you see include Hamas in those numbers.

        There’s no way to know how many deaths in Gaza are Hamas (they don’t wear uniforms) but Hamas themselves has said they lost 6,000. The actual number is likely much higher. But whatever the actual number is, it’s included in the Gaza death toll numbers.

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          Hamas themselves have never said they have lost 6.000. They have never released any number.

          Israel has released numbers. 1400. 1200. 1139. 695.

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      Israel has pointedly said that the civilian death toll is irrelevant no matter how big it gets. Killing 3 civilians for every terrorist is considered acceptable numbers by the IDF. For some reason if Hamas uses the same logic to kill 300 soldiers and 900 civilians (many killed by Israeli friendly fire) they’re wrong?

      I’m against violence by both sides but this attempt at justifying one and condemning the other is stupid.

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        That kind of twisted logic is exactly what many in this thread are using — somehow defending Palestinians’ murder of civilians because they are oppressed. It’s repulsive.