• Lydia_K@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    No, they don’t already do that, because turnout is dogshit, if everyone did that we wouldn’t have that problem.

    Please criticize the fuck out of the candidates and policies, they fucking suck and they need to know we want progressives not the crap they are parading around, but this meme isn’t doing that, it’s just sending the message that it’s pointless to try, it feels like right wing created content to keep people from bothering to vote at all, and when you look at the numbers, that’s exactly what’s happening.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      Please criticize the fuck out of the candidates and policies,

      All criticism is welcome except any particular criticism.

      but this meme isn’t doing that, it’s just sending the message that it’s pointless to try

      No, the party sends that message. The meme just details the mechanism by which they send it.

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      As a criticism of the DNC, the meme’s pretty close to the truth, even if it does inspire apathy – like Lucy yanking the football away every time, it’s the DNC who sabotage nominees who intend to implement effective change of the system.

      But since there’s no other viable ball to kick, the electorate need to kick anyway – and spend the rest of the time organizing on a national level and engaging politically on a local level to shitcan Lucy. (This metaphor isn’t especially extensible!)

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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        As a criticism of the DNC, the meme’s pretty close to the truth, even if it does inspire apathy

        The meme doesn’t inspire apathy. The party’s behavior does.

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      No, they don’t already do that, because turnout is dogshit, if everyone did that we wouldn’t have that problem.

      This is a comforting lie educated liberals tell themselves. The truth is that today, the Democratic party represents voters who vote more reliably, while the Republicans represent more disengaged infrequent voters. This changed over the last decade or so, but people haven’t gotten the memo. It used to be that Republicans did better in low-turnout elections. But now the opposite is true. Republicans now thrive on low-information, low-engagement voters - the exact type of voters that would vote more in your scenario of everyone turning out. If everyone had voted in 2024, Trump would have won by an even larger margin.

      This makes sense if you think about it. Today, Democrats’ real only message is, “vote strategically, we aren’t Republicans.” They offer very little of actual substance beyond not being Trump. Low-engagement voters aren’t going to care about your message of not being Trump. They don’t have the same loyalties regular voters do. And they’re not going to educate themselves on things like Project 2025.

      Trump won low-engagement voters because he had simple direct messages that could reach them. Trump was going to put money in your pocket and clamp down on crime. That was his message. That was what he offered. Harris offered “I’m not Trump.” To a well-educated liberal, not being Trump is enough, as you pay attention to politics and know exactly what kind of evil shit Trump has gotten up to. But “I’m not Trump” doesn’t work for the low-engagement voters vital to win an election.

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      American reading comprehension being under a 6th grade level doing the heavy lifting here, huh? The context of the original comic is Lucy yanking the ball away before Charlie has the chance to kick it. The lesson is that Charlie shouldn’t stop trying to kick the ball, it’s that Lucy should stop being an asshole by taking it. This is not trying to lower turnout for the DNC, this is trying to sarcastically say this manipulative shit doesn’t work and doesn’t increase turnout. It’s doing the fucking opposite of what you’re saying.

      Plenty of candidates have won despite a multitude of criticism towards them. If your candidate can’t beat anyone because of those criticisms, then they were a weak candidate anyways.

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        Also it’s important to realize that Charlie Brown is a good-natured sucker being taken advantage of by a manipulative person.

        Eventually even the most gullible suckers give up.

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        You’re spot on and these downvotes are EXACTLY why things are the way they are.