Ya know eveytime I see these I wonder, “how did the Arabs do it?” They actually did something in Egypt. We can’t even agree to take the same day off.
It didn’t do shit. Egypt is a dictatorial police state, the middle east is in shambles, thousands have died for just wanting peace and democracy.
They fucking used tanks against bahraini protestors. Libya is a failed state. Syria entered a decade long civil war, and tunisia is the only one that had a good outcome[-ish].
We still live like peasants in autocratic monarchies, totalitarian dictatorships and “democracies”, what the fuck is this user talking about?
But if you are going to do this, you need some amount of leadership and coordination. 50 people losing their jobs as they said is nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it will ruin those 50 people’s lives.
Egypt got fuck ton of money from USA to restore (their) order. Libya was toppled by the USA. Syria was destabilized and invaded by everyone around it (and the USA)
edit: sorry if it wasn’t clear, but i was agreeing with you here.
I was mainly talking from my point of view, how the arab spring went. It was the struggle of the people against their oppressors and they couldn’t handle not having powers. Egypt is struggling heavily currently even with US backing, and is ruled by a wannabe dictator. Libya is… libya, and i’m truly happy that Syria eventually won, despite the hundreds of thousands of martyrs, and dead.
I blame the UK and france more than anyone for this, since after the Arab revolt they betrayed us, and created a bunch of puppet states with horrible borders (can’t forget funding the sauds, handling the balfour agreement horribly and killing the egyptians too) then literally never paid us back for the destruction. Though the US is responsible for modern middle eastern instability too, such as invading Iraq for no reason at all, and “saving” the libyans.
I’d argue it’s both. We’re still under occupation, it’s just both by western countries and ourselves. It’s a miserable truth that we all have to live with, fascism has been alive and kicking in the ME for a century [at least]. I often tear up thinking where did we go wrong but i always remember it’s the same parasites: authoritarians. They’d sell us all into slavery for a quick buck in a heart beat, they cannot be trusted around anything.
I know it will all end eventually, but that will take decades, or even centuries. All for what? the british wanting to defeat the ottomans?
This is the worst example of all i can think of, every time i think of him it’s just, what the fuck. Mazen didn’t deserve any of this. Everytime i think of him i want to cry, because i know he is not the only one who experienced this hell. May he rest in peace.
It didn’t do shit. Egypt is a dictatorial police state, the middle east is in shambles, thousands have died for just wanting peace and democracy.
They fucking used tanks against bahraini protestors. Libya is a failed state. Syria entered a decade long civil war, and tunisia is the only one that had a good outcome[-ish].
We still live like peasants in autocratic monarchies, totalitarian dictatorships and “democracies”, what the fuck is this user talking about?
But if you are going to do this, you need some amount of leadership and coordination. 50 people losing their jobs as they said is nothing in the grand scheme of things, but it will ruin those 50 people’s lives.
Egypt got fuck ton of money from USA to restore (their) order. Libya was toppled by the USA. Syria was destabilized and invaded by everyone around it (and the USA)
edit: sorry if it wasn’t clear, but i was agreeing with you here.
I was mainly talking from my point of view, how the arab spring went. It was the struggle of the people against their oppressors and they couldn’t handle not having powers. Egypt is struggling heavily currently even with US backing, and is ruled by a wannabe dictator. Libya is… libya, and i’m truly happy that Syria eventually won, despite the hundreds of thousands of martyrs, and dead.
I blame the UK and france more than anyone for this, since after the Arab revolt they betrayed us, and created a bunch of puppet states with horrible borders (can’t forget funding the sauds, handling the balfour agreement horribly and killing the egyptians too) then literally never paid us back for the destruction. Though the US is responsible for modern middle eastern instability too, such as invading Iraq for no reason at all, and “saving” the libyans.
Yes, Sadly the imperial order never ended. Just paid dictators instead of puppet states…
I’d argue it’s both. We’re still under occupation, it’s just both by western countries and ourselves. It’s a miserable truth that we all have to live with, fascism has been alive and kicking in the ME for a century [at least]. I often tear up thinking where did we go wrong but i always remember it’s the same parasites: authoritarians. They’d sell us all into slavery for a quick buck in a heart beat, they cannot be trusted around anything.
I know it will all end eventually, but that will take decades, or even centuries. All for what? the british wanting to defeat the ottomans?
This is the worst example of all i can think of, every time i think of him it’s just, what the fuck. Mazen didn’t deserve any of this. Everytime i think of him i want to cry, because i know he is not the only one who experienced this hell. May he rest in peace.