Summary
During a House Oversight Committee hearing, Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) repeatedly shouted an anti-trans slur despite objections from Democratic Rep. Gerald Connolly.
She defended her remarks by attacking transgender rights and dismissing criticism.
The outburst drew condemnation from LGBTQ+ advocates and political figures, highlighting her shift from previously supporting LGBTQ+ rights to embracing anti-trans rhetoric.
Mace has used the slur in past statements and introduced legislation restricting transgender rights.
This bigot had a trans-rights activist arrested for “Assault” right after shaking hands with them.
When Sarah Palin came about, surely I thought she was the most craziest dumbest and racist female brunette politician ever.
Why are there more?!
Someone should a countered with “attention whore!” on repeat
Notice a similar pattern? Nazis went after trans folks first. Don’t let them dehumanize trans and non binary.
These fascist bastards are going to learn something about some of the rights we have as Americans to protect ourselves from tyranny if they keep going down this road.
Yep. Something that I never learned in school, including university. LGBTQ people were among the very first targeted in Nazi Germany.
Against rando MAGAts, sure, but against the government? It’s going to take more than commercial-grade weaponry to take on the military.
The US government has lost all wars against gorilla warfare since i have been alive. And that is with an untouchable economy, uninterrupted logistics, and numbers.
None of that would be a thing in a revolt of the US. US Civilian weaponry is some of the finest in the world. And a 22. Will kill a man just as dead as a .50 BMG
Yeah, but they lost in the sense that the cost-benefit of conflict on the other side of the world was no longer worth it, not an existential loss. And they were fighting people whose backs were up against the wall in a big way. A Vietnamese farmer didn’t have the option to sit around in air conditioning watching TV.
The thing people don’t realize about guerrilla warfare is that being a guerrilla really fucking sucks. Nothing is safe, you’re constantly on the run and crawling through the dirt, no security from bombs falling, no secure supply lines, etc. You need a reliably supportive population to make it work.
If you compare a Vietnamese rice farmer to an average modern day American, you’d be hard-pressed to find two people more different from each other.
I’m all for armed resistance, but it’s important to look at the specific material conditions and not just assume the same tactics will be viable.
A war that becomes too costly to fight is a war lost. And kinda proves my point. I made no claim about how glorious, or easy an uprising would be, but i am not going to accept “its too hard” as a legitimate argument for giving up to tyranny. People are not very different, even at their most societal extremes, and the same tactics will work even better here in the states then where they were used on other countries soil, because of the very nature of guerrilla warfare and the previous advantages that the US enjoyed losing the previous wars would not be available.
A war that becomes too costly to fight is a war lost.
Depends on what you’re giving up if you lose. If you’re giving up a random colony in tiny nation across the world from you, you can throw in the towel pretty easily. If the cost of losing is that you are unseated from power entirely and left at the mercy of your enemies, then any cost is acceptable.
i am not going to accept “its too hard” as a legitimate argument for giving up to tyranny.
Valid, and not really what I’m trying to say. Just that the form of resistance we’re likely to see in the US is probably going to look different. Rather than Vietnam or the WoT, it may look more like The Troubles in Ireland, or something else entirely.
In the event of a complete collapse of the US government, it’s unfortunately more likely that the right would take power, being much better armed. The right may be able to seize power and force a confrontation anyway.
As long as we lack the strength to win a full civil war, it would be very foolish to provoke one. Which tactics are best used when is debatable, but we should keep a variety of tools in the toolbox and adapt to conditions rather than assuming a certain tactic is always best.
No matter how specialized gorilla warfare would look, it’s still effective. Arming the progressives is key, which prompted my exclamation that all progressives should be armed. The narrative that guns should be banned is not only an unfeasible goal, but i do not see any way out of an armed conflict. And sure there may be other tools, but gorilla warfare is just ‘an irregular form of combat in which small, mobile groups use tactics like ambushes, sabotage, and hit-and-run attacks to fight a larger, conventional military force.’ Which is the exact scenario a rebellion would be facing and is proven effective against the US armed forces. Not sure what warfare you would argue would be better.
Gorilla warfare? 🤔
It’s “guerrilla war,” not gorilla. Getting armed is good. But if you disagree with my tactical assessment, I’d at least recommend reading up on the movements that actually employed those tactics successfully. For example, here’s a very basic summation of the Vietnamese strategy:
We are not at all close to phase 2, we could hardly even be said to have started phase 1. There is no organized system of cells, no infiltration of organizations, no stockpiles of weapons (unless it’s very well hidden, I suppose). Developing all those things is valid, but require time and effort. And generally an insurgency should also have a more presentable public facing front.
In short, it’s complicated and if you’re serious about it you should study and think critically about how to apply it.
I’d like you to be right, but I have my doubts. Maybe we’ll find out.
We need to speak more regularly about how these people obviously have kompromat on them and are being actively blackmailed - no sympathy as they are garbage humans regardless, but these changes in stance are so swift and violent. These people often have a history of not caring or even supporting these issues, before they become over the top, performative hate mouthpieces - it’s so obvious that they were basically told by Republican operatives at some point, “you’re gonna do what we say or we are going to fucking end your pleasant life”. Again, no sympathy there because the underlying subtext is that these people do shit horrible enough that they can be blackmailed with it. But this is Mace as recently as 2023:
“I’m pro-transgender rights,” she told CBS News’ The Takeout in May 2023. “I’m pro-LGBTQ.” The Republican lawmaker made the comments while saying she opposed gender-affirming care for minors. “Sex change surgery, the hormone blockers that sterilize our children, we shouldn’t be doing that,” Mace said. “Now, if they want to take on a different pronoun or a different gender identity, or grow their hair out, or wear a dress, or wear pants, or do those things as a minor, those are all things that I think most people would support. Be who you want to be, but don’t make those permanent changes when it’s a child,” she added.
Not a perfect position by any means, but centuries away from what she is today.
And here is after she was first elected in '21:
She was one of the only Republicans to sponsor the Serving Our LGBTQ Veterans Act in 2021, which proposed establishing a Center for LGBTQ Veterans within the Department of Veterans Affairs. That same year, she even called for “transgender equality” while asserting herself as a pro-LGBTQ+ rights lawmaker. “I strongly support LGBTQ rights and equality,” Mace told the Washington Examiner. “No one should be discriminated against.” “It isn’t a black-and-white issue,” Mace added. “I do believe that religious liberty, the First Amendment, gay rights, and transgender equality can all coexist. I’m also a constitutionalist, and we have to ensure anti-discrimination laws don’t violate First Amendment rights or religious freedom.”
I don’t think kompromat is necessary. These are power-hungry and attention-hungry people. They’ll say and do whatever panders to the people who will pay attention to them in the moment. J K Rowling didn’t need to be blackmailed to go from saying she supported transgender rights to becoming one of the Internet’s worst purveyors of trans-hate. Many other “influencers” have gone the same route, including a few who are trans themselves. (Matt Bernstein has some good videos about these people.) Overt transphobia is a thing you can do to score cheap points with ignorant people and get attention, approval and money. There’s enough motivation there for a certain kind of character, with no need for blackmail.
My point with Mace is her transition on public stance - she ran in part on a more tolerant, realistic view than most. I don’t remember rowling speaking of any tolerance before she showed herself as a villain - she just went from quiet to loud.
Not the person you were replaying to, but the winds of power have shifted and she is trimming her sails accordingly. She may have run espousing LGBTQ+ policies because that was the smart political thing to do, but now that Musk, et al are in power, these people can drop their “politically correct” act and show us who they really are, which is a bunch of intolerant, power-hungry fascists.
I don’t even know what the T word is?
The informal name for a vehicle transmission.
Gearbox?
T**nny today
F**got tomorrow
N****r next week
This is escalation to test the waters
They are not testing the waters, there isn’t a plan. They are just bigots doing hateful things
You are right in that there may be escalation because sooner than later these assholes will realize Trans people are so few as to be invisible to them, they’ll once again see their own lives are pitiful and move onto hate someone else just to feel good about themselves for a hot minute
They are not testing the waters, there isn’t a plan.
This is the plan
Yes, I was not clear enough… I was referring specifically to the slurs here. They are not planning their every move, they have a goal to mount an autocratic government and that brings nasty people out into the public.
On that note they do not even need to “test the waters”; the population of the USA already handed them over all the power they could ever need. Short of massive protest and a Nation wide strike, what was left of Democracy in the USA is completely over.
Where does it say they’ll strategically start saying certain slurs in public in there?
As these next 4 years go by do yourself a favor.
Write down right now what you expect and hope will happen from the current administration.
Now that you have your expectations and convictions on paper, don’t move the bar when your leaders fail to meet your expectations and convictions. What you wrote down is what you beleive.
Stop moving the bar to always accept them, it isn’t healthy.
Yes, there is a plan. No, her screeching slurs isn’t part of it, although it comes from the same hate and cruelty that the plan does.
It’s also unhealthy for you to just block out ideas that make you uncomfortable, like having principles instead of following a strong man that makes you feel safe and changing your convictions when they no longer align with the strong man you cling to.
Stop moving the bar, you’re lying to yourself.
Just because someone is a bigot doesn’t mean they aren’t following a plan. Testing the waters and normalizing bigoted thinking are things bigots do on purpose.
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Someone deserves to be maced, that much is certain. May you go to hell, Mace.
What a cissy.
I actually read the article and clicked on the link to the hearing back and forth and can’t find what the anti trans slur was. Honestly I can’t think of what an anti trans slur would be so I guess its possible I somehow missed it but I assumed it would be obvious.
Saying “tranny” is a slur.
ok yeah. I would have picked up on that I think. I did not see it. I mean I get they don’t want to say the slur but having to rely on someones basically opinion on what is what is sorta difficult nowadays.
This is a government of the absolute worst people.
There’s actually a word for it:
It manages at once to be a kakistocracy, an oligopoly, a plutocracy and a kleptocracy - which makes sense since the very worst people are the few ultra-rich guys who scrambled to the top by stealing from everyone else.
For the absolute worst. The votes were not rigged.
We’re not going to take this lying down
The votes were not rigged, more reason for us to be ready.
Gross. You are become them. Classic American - apply a bit of stress and you cry Guns!
Before this year, I was absolutely anti-gun. I’m a teacher, and it chills me that every time I enter a classroom I think “how the hell am I going to get these kids out of here if shit goes down”. That’s how I start my Monday’s.
Owning a gun at home is statistically more dangerous to you or someone you love than to an intruder.
Most school shooters are taken down by unarmed teachers who work together.
But we aren’t facing intruders or school shooters. We are facing the proud boys, Jan6ers, and now the federal government. I normally don’t believe in violence and weapons either, but the context has changed and now we cannot rely on promises of public officials to keep us safe. We cannot rely on the police to keep us safe (as if we could before). We cannot rely on any market force to keep us safe.
Only we can keep us safe. This shit is getting real, and for those of us who are most likely staring down the barrel of a fascists gun, we can’t just let that happen.
I hate that this is the reality.
I should never have to consider these things.
But in America, every conservative and their mom is carrying, and we in the cities have been complacent. Obviously you are not from America. You don’t understand the sheer amount of guns here. Sadly it’s creating a feedback loop and to sit unarmed is to be a sitting duck in a civil war/ genocide situation.
The time for the idealism of pacifism is done. If you are neutral you are on the side of the oppressor.
I was a complete pacifist for a couple decades. Now, I’m a believer in peace through being a hard target. You cannot rely on the basic human decency of sociopaths to save you. You need to deter their aggression by making it more costly and risky.
My wife was against guns. She hated my guns, didn’t even want to lay eyes on them. She bought a 9mm last year.
Owning a gun at home is statistically more dangerous to you or someone you love than to an intruder.
Something missing from this concern about statistics is that it lumps together the people who leave loaded guns on their bedside table with those who take reasonable precautions like storing their guns in safes or using trigger locks.
I think for those who take those precautions and follow the safe handling rules, guns are safe enough to have at home.
The stats are real though. As ownership goes up, more of these events happen since people make these mistakes at a predictable rate. What might be safe for you doesn’t necessarily scale to the masses. Hence, some caution is recommended when making recommendations for the masses.
Quite a few of these stories that go like “he was cleaning his gun and it went off” are just disguised suicides.
Only you know if you are experiencing suicidal ideation. If you are, don’t get a gun.
If you have a gun and start to have those thoughts, give your gun to someone you trust and talk to a psychiatrist.
You could also do my method from when I was a hardcore suicidal alcoholic. Get totally blackout and hide it from yourself. Took me months to find it. Really though don’t do that.
I’d think it this way: Get the training anyway, hold off buying if that’s morally (and understandably so) difficult.
If shit hits the fan before you get one and/or it’s otherwise too late, there’ll be chances of obtaining one in the middle of the shitstorm one way or another. Maybe someone friendly has one, but never got around to proper training? Good thing you did. You can help out and try your best to utilise it as morally but also as professionally and efficiently as you can.
Slightly more long term, you can assist training others, if using one on live targets still feels objectionable (and rightly so!) to you.
Learning the craft and proper handling will not go to waste, if it starts looking even worse than it does now.
It can be good, too, to help others use the things more safely and otherwise properly. May save lives. And you need not take any, not in defense or otherwise, if that’s important to you.
When has fascism ever taken root and been removed without violence?
When has it been done at the level of individual citizens taking up arms in an unorganized fashion?
The first step of people taking up arms in an organized fashion is having arms to take up.
It’s not though. No shortage of that in US. Are you worried about a supply issue? Without organization it just more hate filled idiots with guns. That’s been a big part of the problem. You are become them.
You have to understand the realities of America…
When assholes like the Proud Boys or Patriot Prayer can invade your town at a whim…
And it turns out THEY’RE WORKING WITH THE COPS…
It’s contingent on every responsible adult to be able to protect themselves.
When someone with guns is coming for me, what do you suggest I should do? Sweet reason? Aikido?
If you don’t understand the situation, don’t judge. There’s a big difference between persecution and resisting persecution.
I understand the situation. An arms race is a losing option. You do you - choose violence. Not for me. It’s always an ugly option, and rarely the winningest strategy on this sort of guerrilla level.
If fascists are coming to kill you or take you to a camp wouldn’t you like to take at least one with you? What if they’re coming for someone you love?
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No u. I remember when Lemmy wasn’t just a bunch of assholes. You wear your intellect on your sleeve sir, and the shirt is a wife-beater.
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Read this and tell me what you think please. I was convinced everything was mostly legit until I read that. Author provides their credentials at the end if you want to check that out before wasting your time.
With the presence of russian tails and donald telling people not to vote he has plenty, doubt.
That’s rich, coming from a sandwich-maker that left the kitchen.
The MAGA Cult holy grail is when they can keep their careers intact after shouting the N-word in the capitol and say that they don’t care.
They’re almost there. Keep sleeping, murica
Their holy grail is to be able to kill you because they don’t like the look of you, and be rewarded for it.
The actual stripping of protections, the laws they are or will pass, those are bad enough already, but sometimes it feels like the worst part is just how brave these bigot shitfuckers have become now that their pet nazi is in power. They don’t even have the decency to be afraid to fly their hate flag anymore. They were always shitty people, but at least they used to feel like the country at large would reject them for expressing their true feelings, hence all the pushback against “Cancel Culture.” Now, though, they’re not even afraid of ostriziation, much less anything more substantial.
God this bitch is so desperate to cling to her 15 minutes of fame.
