Mostly out of curiosity, but also somewhat related to Proton’s recent political involvement, I’m curious about alternatives to using their services, open to suggestions for:

  • Proton Mail: anything that can support custom domain, email aliases, and email scheduling?
  • Proton Drive: not the most important, but interested in privacy first, encrypted hosting services
  • Proton Pass: anything I should take a look at besides Bitwarden and Keepass?
  • Proton VPN: that one’s the hardest, it was really good, I think Mullvlad is the one most often recommended?
  • Proton Calendar: didn’t really care about that one, but it was nice that it connected to Mail

My Unlimited plan renewed in December so I’ll probably keep it for a year, it was nice having only one subsctiption to keep in mind, but I’m thinking of exploring other options

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    Why does everyone just say use Mullvad now, I always got taught if they are advertising, you should not use them, has this stance changed?

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      21 hours ago

      they won’t advertise much until you download theur browser. that’s intrusive af

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      Mullvad still advertises less than the others.

      Nord has like the highest advertising budget I’ve ever seen.

      And a lot of the major providers have been caught making fake recommendation websites.

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      How would a company (even a good one) let people know they exist without some sort of advertising?

      Just start a company and sit there hoping people accidentally find you, then tell their friends?

      Advertising has to happen on some level.

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        Fair enough, that’s on me for not thinking it all the way through.

        On the flipside why is mullavad as trusted as it is now?

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          good track record, anon accounts+payments, no logs, swedish privacy laws and 3rd party security audits. mullvad was also chosen as the backend of Mozilla’s vpn

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            Hmmm, I guess, besides the the proton ceo’s statements, how does that compare to proton VPN?

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              haven’t used proton vpn so can’t compare directly. i would assume similar performance wise.

              on mullvad side you get apps to easily change locations on pretty much all platforms but also option for downloading openvpn and wireguard configs directly. only complaint I’ve had is you can only configure 5 devices at a time even if they’re not using them at the same time which kind of sucks.

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      Mullvad has amazing privacy credentials that are third party audited.

      In terms of anonymity, you can literally send them cash via post to protect your identity.

      I recommend them to everyone.