Background:
August 26, 2024 a dbzer0 instance admin instance banned a user, @marcie@lemmy.ml per “Sanctioned mod due to slanderous & unsubstantiated community ban and zero response to appeal. Ban to be lifted once issue is resolved.”
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=9924804
From what I could gather, she received the instance ban after banning an instance member from a community (!transgender@lemmy.ml). Whether or not the community ban is justified doesn’t really seem to be an issue here, an instance ban is an extreme response to a community ban and is inherently an unbalanced action that has vastly different ramifications. This means that no local users can interact with or see the instance banned user compared to one local user not being able to interact with one community on a different instance. The instance ban has much deeper implications than a community ban and should not be used rashly in response to a community ban.
https://lemmy.ml/modlog/14758?page=1&actionType=All&userId=892112
Something that may be worth to note is that the community banned user is a dbzer0 instance admin; however, I don’t see how this could be much of an issue here, especially in terms of moderation, as there are other unbanned instance admins that can access that community. It just seems that this ban was done for personal reasons, possibly in revenge, that perhaps don’t align with this instance’s userbase’s interests.
In fact, being an admin here seems to be part of the reason why it occurred. i.e. Would this instance ban have occurred if the moderator had banned a non-admin user?
If an instance ban on a moderator banning a local user is an appropriate course of action in this instance, then why is this not the case for any other users banned? I have never received an instance ban for community banning users, but should I be banned? Should db0 be banned from dbzer0 for community banning users? Should all community moderators be sanctioned?
Obviously, there isn’t a precedent for this here, and I particularly don’t want one and this is not a proposal to enact one. This is a proposal to reverse an instance ban on a user who I believe is unjustly banned, as an instance ban is not an appropriate response to a single community ban.
Although, if the admin is upset about the community ban, I implore him to visit !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com rather than pinging the user who’s replies cannot even been seen here due to the ban (https://lemmy.ml/post/22023367/14664616) (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/14455427).
I appreciate you posting some receipts and acknowledging that you probably shouldn’t have commented that.
I think there might have been an issue with this:
It kind of implies that you don’t see hexbear as a trans-friendly place which is very strange as they have very strict polices regarding transphobia. You can argue all you want about not wanting people to migrate to hexbear, but they are undoubtedly a trans safe space. It comes across as disinformation which might be why you copped a ban. The ban might have also been for other reasons not apparent in your screenshots, but we ideally need a dialogue between both parties to understand better.
Not to pile on but it’s morning and I’m in a waiting room so I thought I’d add to this and it didn’t feel fair to edit my comment when you probably aren’t checking the thread a ton.
I wanted to ask; why are you repeatedly attempting to justify the behavior of the person who instigated this exchange (eg, maybe you said something transphobic and didn’t realize it, maybe you were actually banned for disinformation) while holding the person responding to a higher standard?
Not trying to insult anyone here but I feel like what we’re looking at is the same as when you have two kids fighting in school. Unless you’re taking this same approach to the person who threw the first punch as well as the kid who reacted badly, that’s not really justice.
I didn’t think you opened this topic to litigate users’ opinions of hexbear?
Your editing kind of removed all the context from the quoted sentence, so I feel like I’m being straw-manned a bit here because you’re responding to your own edit.