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Sharif Abdel Kouddous and Mariam Barghouti
Jan 21, 2025from Drop Site News
[you may get a request to sign up for free subscription]“Israel launched a major military operation on Jenin in the occupied West Bank on Tuesday, raiding the city with troops, military vehicles, and bulldozers backed by airstrikes, drones, and Apache helicopters. At least nine Palestinians have been killed and more than 40 wounded in the ongoing operation, according to the Ramallah-based Palestinian health ministry, which Israel has dubbed “Operation Iron Wall.””
Nope, I remove misinformed comments and temp ban repeat violators.
You are correct, Israel is engaging in Genocide, Biden was not. His opinions on Israel were naive and outdated, but not genocidal.
“I took the White House’s rhetoric at its word and found it to be naïve, and therefore the United States is not complicit in genocide.”
Are you still removing comments refuting Western disinformation about Xinjiang for being “genocide denial”?
It’s never to late to develop real media literacy or to understand how the US incessantly prosecutes regime change operations globally, but I’m not holding my breath.
Same challenge I gave the other guy:
Show me where the ICC charged Biden the way they did Netanyahu or Putin, it’s cool. I can wait.
In fact, show me which of the 5 definitions of Genocide Biden meets under article II of the UN charter.
Pro tip - You can’t, because they didn’t.
I’m all for blaming Israel for the Genocide, they are 100% doing it and will not stop unless someone invades and makes them stop.
That doesn’t mean Biden was doing it.
I see, you’re speaking of genocide only in strictly a legal terms, as if that is the only meaning of the term “genocide.” Got it, Slippin’ Jimmy.
This is precisely why the US’s rhetoric is the way it is, because if they were honest about their mens rea then they would be legally complicit. The US pretends to be naïve to provide legal & rhetorical cover for itself.
Whether you are naïve, or only pretending to be, is an exercise for the reader.
“Naive and outdated” that’s one way to describe sending $30B in arms to a genocide. Others would call it “complicity in genocide”. Like, experts in international law.
Been on lemmy.world for the last month or so you guys, I fucking hate it. Arguing with "we had to vote for Harris"ers until some vigilante mod decides my angry response to their support for genocide isn’t “civil” enough.
Experts in international law, the ICC, correctly blame Israel, not Biden.
https://www.icc-cpi.int/news/situation-state-palestine-icc-pre-trial-chamber-i-rejects-state-israels-challenges
The reason I say “naive” is that Biden persists in this mentality that Israel is just some poor victim surrounded by hostile Arab states and Israel hasn’t been a legit victim since… what? The 1972 Olympics?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_massacre
If you look at what Israel has been doing to Gaza since the 90s, it’s a slow motion version of the ghettoization of the Jews in Nazi Germany.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip
The link you put does not excuse Biden. Why lie?
Meanwhile, back in reality:
https://www.amnestyusa.org/press-releases/amnesty-international-warns-of-u-s-complicity-in-war-crimes-in-gaza/
https://ccrjustice.org/home/press-center/press-releases/rights-lawyers-release-legal-analysis-us-complicity-israel-s
Please study the Nakba, you’re not just embarrassing yourself but whitewashing a history of genocide.
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Show me where the ICC charged Biden the way they did Netanyahu or Putin, it’s cool. I can wait.
In fact, show me which of the 5 definitions of Genocide Biden meets under article II of the UN charter.
Pro tip - You can’t, because they didn’t.
I’m all for blaming Israel for the Genocide, they are 100% doing it and will not stop unless someone invades and makes them stop.
That doesn’t mean Biden was doing it.
The absence of legal proceedings against someone for a crime does not mean they didn’t commit the crime. Are you serious?
Another red flag, you’re confusing the UN Charter with the UN Genocide Convention, which is what has an “Article II” that defines genocide. Imagine making these kinds of mistakes and posting publicly with the kind of confidence you have. What a dick.
Re: the UN Genocide Convention (not the UN Charter), if you bothered to read Article THREE, it outlines conspiracy to commit genocide as a crime independent of genocide itself, as well as direct and public incitement to commit genocide, and complicity in genocide. By any sane metric he’s guilty of multiple of these - even if we ignore the diplomatic, logistical, military, and economic support Biden gave to “Israel” for its genocide, he is also guilty of spreading genocidal incitement propaganda, namely atrocity propaganda about Oct. 7 meant to dehumanize Palestinians.
The ICC, by the way, does not enforce the UN Genocide Convention - rather, the ICJ, a different body, would issue a ruling, if a lawsuit was brought against a state party by another state party, and the UN Security Council - which the US has veto power over - would decide on any enforcement of that ruling.
You’re really committed to defending people who committed genocide
No, I’m commited to blaming the people actually committing genocide:
https://lemmy.world/comment/14643153
So you are a genocide denier. Do you also ban people who don’t deny genocide?
Nope, I fully acknowledge the genocides being commited, but in order to do that, you have to blame the correct parties.
See my post here:
https://lemmy.world/post/24563168
Blaming the wrong people won’t end the genocide.
Ok, genocide denier
My position on the Israeli genocide has been 100% clear from the start:
https://lemmy.world/comment/14643153
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