Summary

Fox News’s attempt to find support for Donald Trump in Greenland backfired, as most residents expressed disinterest in his proposals.

While one Trump supporter was found, the majority of Greenlanders interviewed criticized Trump’s comments and expressed a preference for remaining under Danish rule.

Despite these setbacks, Trump continues to advocate for acquiring Greenland, citing economic security concerns.

  • Optional@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Nah, miss me with that shit. I voted for Kamala

    So then we’re all good here. You did what you could, end of story.

    The rest of it - how politics in the US today works; how it should - is standard disagreement.

    Blaming the voter is a trap, it’s not actionable, and it’s setting the democrats up for failure all over again.

    Blaming the voter is extraordinarily important and apt. The people who didn’t show up fucked us, and by extension the planet, over. Furthermore they now wish to be absolved for fucking up extremely badly. No.

    As for setting the Democrats up for failure, I disagree with that too, but I see your point there.

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      12 hours ago

      Okay, then tell me, what do you do with “it’s the voter’s fault, we made no mistakes and deserved this win”? Because to me, that’s the political equivalent of shoving your hands in your pockets and blaming God. It’s a way to absolve yourself of any responsibility in how things went and of any need to deal with it. Because, I mean, what are you going to do, climb into the bible and fight God / climb into the CNN exit polls and fight the voters? That’s a non-starter.

      • MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world
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        12 hours ago

        “it’s the voter’s fault, we made no mistakes and deserved this win”?

        NO ONE is saying this. I haven’t even seen someone claim a majority of blame belongs to non-voters. They absolutely deserve some of the blame. There’s quite a few turds in this punchbowl.

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          6 hours ago

          God I wish more people could understand this. They want to point at a single person or group and say all the blame lies with them when there’s so much to go around.

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        12 hours ago

        JUST VOTE.

        That’s it. That’s the whole of it.

        Anything else is something else. I’m blaming the NON-VOTERS. People who voted are not in that data set.

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          12 hours ago

          Okay, I’m seeing a lot of caps. Remember that our goals are more aligned than you probably think just now. I’m going to ask you to take a breath and know that I’m not trying to prevail against you. Rather, I’m trying to persuade you of the urgent need for the democrats to critically re-examine their strategy going forward.

          What you’ve just said doesn’t seem actionable to me. What do we do with “JUST VOTE”? How do we execute on that and get a meaningful outcome?

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            12 hours ago

            Well, for one, we can foster a sense of civic duty to vote.

            For two, we can focus on rideshares, ways to make voting by mail easier, things like that to remove obstacles to voting

            For three, we can focus on defeating the evil measures set into law by generations of republiQans to prevent people from voting such as voter ID laws (although that horse has probably left the barn), robo calls, gerrymandering, challenging voter eligibility, things like that.

            Those are three main areas that will help people vote. The Democrats are on board with all of them. The republiQans are actively working to demolish all of them. If someone wants to vote for Jill Stein or their gramma or something - fine, we can argue about that later. At least it’s participation in the fundamentals of democracy.

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              12 hours ago

              That all sounds great.

              The first item kind of reads like “we’ll just go to the moon” once you start to think about it. It’s not impossible, but I think it’s not a realistic tasking.

              Two and three definitely seems like something the DNC can and should be organizing.

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                11 hours ago

                Believe it or not, generation after generation of American citizens understood that it was their right and duty to vote. And to defend that right.

                But a few months ago a whole slew of people right here happily waxed vitriolic about how voting itself was “collusion” and “supported genocide” and other insane shit, and thanks in no small part to them we are now going to get screwed at every level - corporate, governmental, societal - every day, for years.

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                  11 hours ago

                  Faith in our systems (government, economic, civic, etc) has been broadly declining, alongside the portion of eligible population who goes and votes, for decades. It’s both cause and effect of how we arrived at the populist moment, I think. This started waaaaaaay before last October.

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                    10 hours ago

                    I’m not sure how you mean exactly, but okay. The political system is a result of the voting. If non-voters expect to gain faith via these latest results, i’d argue that is also poorly reasoned.