Summary

Fox News’s attempt to find support for Donald Trump in Greenland backfired, as most residents expressed disinterest in his proposals.

While one Trump supporter was found, the majority of Greenlanders interviewed criticized Trump’s comments and expressed a preference for remaining under Danish rule.

Despite these setbacks, Trump continues to advocate for acquiring Greenland, citing economic security concerns.

  • Madison420@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Yeah not voting is the issue, it’s not the systemic flaws in the way we run campaigns and elections. No no, it’s everyone else. You couldn’t possibly have a hand in it because you voted right? Right?

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        5 hours ago

        True as it may be, but when the majority don’t bother you’ve got to acknowledge something is up, reform is necessary.

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        12 hours ago

        Agreed. Some people were disqualified and weren’t allowed to vote, I’m one of those people. Hence fundamentally flawed system and the pats on the back about voting are at best mastrabatory affirmations of congratulations.

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          12 hours ago

          Well that sucks and I hope we can fix it so you can vote. It will be harder now that the cheaters are writing all the laws again but it wasn’t easy before and we did it.

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                11 hours ago

                No it’s an effect. Demoralized voters don’t vote because they don’t feel their vote matters and they’re not wrong. Like 50% of votes are in states where they’re meaningless.

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                  Demoralized voters don’t vote because they don’t feel their vote matters and they’re not wrong. Like 50% of votes are in states where they’re meaningless.

                  Nope. If just an additional 1 out of every 15 people in Texas had voted for Harris, then Trump would have lost even Texas. The number of people in Texas who could have voted but did not vote far exceeds that number. The number of people in Texas who didn’t vote because they probably thought it wouldn’t matter was big enough to easily make the difference in who won the state. So even the state of Texas could have voted against Trump, if only enough people who could have voted actually did vote for Harris. And Texas is one of your “meaningless” states. Other states could have done this even more easily.

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                    Yes, the entire country is Texas. Forgive me I seem to remember like 50 or so states and several thousand counties.

                    You don’t know that, not every rejection or disenfranchisement is logged and moreover a huge issue with disenfranchisement is that when is released lots of states do not tell the person that they again have voting rights. And still yet some states both refuse to tell you and force you to apply for restoration of rights.

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                    Roughly half of American votes are cast in states where the majority is so overwhelming their vote is essentially worthless.

                    Roughly half isn’t 50% anyway.

                    Ed: you need more data to say they chose not to vote. We don’t actually know how many that is and it’s unlikely a full count will ever be known.

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      The ballot presented the status quo (which is far less than ideal, sure, but included a normal human) vs outright Fascism with a Capital F, and millions of people shirked their civic duty because they didn’t like the dem candidate enough.

      When Fascism is setting fires on your doorstep and you’re too busy arguing about the feng shui in the living room to bother calling in firefighters, yeah, it’s your fault.

      Like it or not, the biggest group to sway 2024 were abstainers. If the number of voters who turned out for dems in 2020 had fucking bothered, we wouldn’t be staring down the barrel of historic progressive policy rollbacks, cuts to social services that will kill the disabled and elderly, the funnelling of your own money into the pockets of billionaires on a scale never before imagined, the systematic dismantling of democracy, and the institution of a theocracy.

      If you are one of those who couldn’t be bothered for whatever reason, congrats, and you need to sit down and shut the fuck up for the next 4 years or so. You surrendered your right to have your opinion considered when you failed to do the bare minimum to stop a convicted felon, conman, and traitor from gaining power over us all again. We fucking warned you.

      e: just saw your other reply. If you were disenfranchised, my comment is not meant for you, and I’m sorry for my vitriol – that’s a travesty, and that should not have happened to you. My comment is meant for the ‘both-siders’ who were (and still are) everywhere leading up to the election.

      • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world
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        It’s simpler than that.

        The two options on the ballot were telling citizens two basically opposite stories.

        1. “It’s not that bad, solutions are hard and complex”. With wages stagnating for decades and costs continuously going up, and nearly half the population living effectively paycheck to paycheck. Factually correct in context, but a hard pill to swallow.
        2. “It’s bad and we will fix it”. No actual plan, probably not even the intention of a real plan to fix anything, but acknowledging what the average person felt instead of seemingly brushing it off.

        Once we get through those simple messages, then we get to the fact that the media since the Cold War has completely fucked actual education of what socialism, fascism, and every other ism other than Capitalism is. It is no wonder a ton of people either decided to not vote or at least vote for the side acknowledging there are issues that need fixing.

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        To my knowledge no systemic polling was ever attempted to determine the reason anyone did not vote.

        How many couldn’t? How many got refused for voter id shit?

        You can say it’s your belief but saying it’s a fact is a bit presumptuous.