• lelkins@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 days ago

    i am very tired at this point.

    disclaimer: this is utter dogshit i guess. yapfest about how utterly far-right the news is in this case. romaniatv, realitatea plus and antena 3 cnn (YES, FUCKING CNN) are the most watched news channels by elderly people in romania and, obviously, my family tunes in to those 3 channels

    the romanian news my grandma watches mentions the “snoop” website as just “snop” iirc, thought that snopes dot com was in on romanian politic for some reason

    right wingers say that some politician named victor ponta (former psd guy iirc) who supports calin georgescu is now soros’ friend or some shit but also is friends with donald trump idfk, and then george “literally adolf hitler” simion is also somehow tied to the sorosposting i am just getting sick and tired of all this shit, forgive me if i say wrong shit my ears and brain are just bombarded with “sorosist” and “x person is satanic”-like slop on all sides no matter where i go, i can’t even comprehend what is happening in my own fucking country with my very eyes, i have fully lost trust of anyone and everyone, everything i say is wrong, everything they say is right no matter how conflicting it is from one person to another, i know someone who genuinely called the calin fucker a “putinist” and promoted lasconi because “she’s with nato and everyone in nato never gets attacked” i just want to pummel myself into fleshy pulp

    let’s wait for romcom, he knows this stuff better than i ever will, more because i have severe trust issues and am never confident of my own opinions (because they fucking suck we all know that)

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      That sounds like hell. Its really understandable that you are having problems keeping a cool head. Both sides are mostly wrong but people look past the bad stuff and choose a side for the few policies they get right. Supporting war is bad and so are nationalist purges. This is why god Lenin created Revolutionary Defeatism.

      This fight is playing out all over the capitalist world to a lesser or equal degree depending on how close they are to Russia. Liberalism is suffering a existential crisis because the rate of profit is unsustainable and the end is getting close. The imperialist liberals want to fight more wars and exploit the conquered. The nationalist liberals want to turn inwards and start purging marginalized people and exploiting the working class harder. The imperialists have been winning the debate and running things for a while but their strategy has been faltering. The crypto-fascists see the return of trump as a signal that they are in ascendancy.

      My guess is all this anger and debate is the plan of the actual fascists. They try to divide the nation along these lines so that people feel bound to their team (35% nationalists 35% imperialists 30% undecided.) Then the cia binds together the worst of both sides to make a imperialist nationalist, pro-nato party with popular support. The new party brands itself as being the synthesis of the parties without saying which policies it supports. The supporters get tricked into thinking their one good policy issue will be supported when the opposite is true. The people who sided with nato because they feared the nationalists’ purges of marginalized people will be thrown under the bus. The people who sided with the nationalists because they didn’t want to support imperialist wars will be sent to fight Russia.

      • RomCom1989 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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        Eh,it’s different in Romania

        What we have aren’t liberals,at least in the European and US sense

        What we have is decayed remnants of the bureaucratic class during communism that jumped ship and hitched their wagon to the west

        What we have now is a fight between those with bank accounts dependant on Brussels and those with bank accounts in Moscow duking it out

        I don’t believe for one second either PNL or PSD give a shit about “democracy” (as was seen with this stunt) and just favor the west for the time being

        What you’re describing is AUR,and it does seem to be the direction they’re going in,with Simon being like Meloni in a lot of ways,starts off anti everything and then nicely simmers down when they win, except for the social policy

        That scenario will or will not happen depending on whether or not they decide to arrest Georgescu,which would create a nice void to be filled by that little snake

        As for what the information revealed by this investigation tells us, the theory that this guy was some SIE plant that got out of hand,with the mainstream parties wanting to use him as a roadblock to any united far right bloc,which hilariously blew up in their faces and now they have themselves the beginnings of a crisis on their hands,as well as an international embarrassment to show to the world

        Sad, really, these guys were masters at stealing elections ten years ago,I can only wonder what happened that they dropped the ball so hard