Because we now have more than adequate evidence that just voting on our own isn’t enough. We need to be putting our energy into local organizing and canvassing (believe me, I have no idea how I’m going to make room for that in my life either), and doing everything we can to get everyone we know who ISN’T a racist, unempathetic bigot to vote.
DID NOT VOTE was the actual winner of both the 2016 and 2024 elections.
You just had an election where all was known about trump and republicans/conservatives and had the chance to alter course and defeat fascism/racism.
They won and not just won, the fascists won by a huge margin and took all branches. Perhaps there will be some changes and alterations in the final results due to some corrections or whatever but bottom line is: America chose a fascist as president and a fascist party to support him in doing his bidding. It’s not even a question anymore whether America is by and large a fascist and racist country, the cards went on the table and the results are in: it is.
You lost and it was democratic, this is what America wants. Buckle up, you are in for a nasty ride. You can thank the American electorate for that, i.e. America, your neighbors and fellow countrymen.
Your shit was collected, sorted and got together, just as the US wanted.
And before someone starts to harp on about interference or lack of votes due to apathy or some weird 3rd ‘party’ siphoning votes from the democrats. Does not matter one bit, these arguments hold no significant water, not enough to change the outcome. By letting yourself be influenced or staying at home or voting ‘green’ we can conclude that this is what America gravitates towards by dumbness, disinterest or being easily fooled.
Sorry for the wall of frustrated text, it just boggles the mind how a country can be this stupid…
Not true that it was a huge margin. Don’t let their claims of mandate fool you
They won the popular vote by one of the smallest margins in recent history. Smaller than hillary did in 2016. They didn’t even get 50%, they got 49.9% of the popular vote
They lost a seat in the house. They will have a 3 seat majority vs their much larger majority in 2016. They have already infighting and struggling with less than that today. They’ll be down to a one seat majority for a couple of months too with their plans to pull people from the house into the admin
State and local dems did generally decently. Certainly much better than they did in 2016 where republicans had much more control of state legislature
For an example, north carolina republicans had their super majority broken up
Don’t let apathy consume you. There are winnable fights. There are even people who’ve already regretted there vote before he’s taken office. Was talking with people working with those hit by Helene in rural North Carolina who mentioned they heard a notable number of people with that exact sentiment
I commend your ability to garner hope. It is misplaced in my opinion but I admire it none the less.
Won the presidency
Won the senate
Won the house
Won the popular vote
Like I said, you have an admirable attitude to keep seeing hope, I on the other hand am a realist and see loss across the board.
The only positive for me is that I am old so I have seen shifts towards a alternate political spectrum before plus I am not American so I try to buffer myself as best I can to avoid mental anguish in seeing a country I admire(d) and love(d) slide into fascism.
As per Winston Churchill : You can count on Americans doing the right thing, after exhausting all the other possibilities
I can only try to share your hope and place America in the “other possibilities” category at the moment and will rise to the occasion to be and do better.
For now I will be a casual onlooker and see what the current state of the US is, a choice of Americans to be governed by megalomaniac fascistic idiots. Who am I to deny them that choice? I have had no say in this choice so I will not be brought down mentally by the horror of said choice.
We just had 38 house republicans publicly vote for a funding bill that Trump publicly supported. He can only lose 3 on future bills.
We’ve had his pick for attorney general already withdraw from consideration after he knew he wouldn’t get the senate confirmation votes
They aren’t in lockstep in the way they need to be to be invincible
The US has managed to recover from the brink before so long as people fight
The very second US president, John Adams, threatened to be an all powerful leader after he passed the Sedition act. He used it to prosecute his political opponents for their speach. People fought against it, even if they had to write anonymously out of fear of persecution.
But the Federalist party that Adams was a part of was still only mostly on board. Took multiple votes despite them having control of congress. One of the provisions they ended up adding to get it through was one to make it expire in 2 years and soften the language a little. People fought it hard and eventually they let it expire once adams had lost the very messy elections of 1800 in part because of it
If we can’t get our shit together enough to take the country back from these racist, unempathetic bigots, we really do deserve whatever comes next.
If we are outvoted by imbeciles and bigots, how is that our fault, though?
Because we now have more than adequate evidence that just voting on our own isn’t enough. We need to be putting our energy into local organizing and canvassing (believe me, I have no idea how I’m going to make room for that in my life either), and doing everything we can to get everyone we know who ISN’T a racist, unempathetic bigot to vote.
DID NOT VOTE was the actual winner of both the 2016 and 2024 elections.
What do you mean “back”? This country was founded by racist, unempathetic bigots.
You just had an election where all was known about trump and republicans/conservatives and had the chance to alter course and defeat fascism/racism.
They won and not just won, the fascists won by a huge margin and took all branches. Perhaps there will be some changes and alterations in the final results due to some corrections or whatever but bottom line is: America chose a fascist as president and a fascist party to support him in doing his bidding. It’s not even a question anymore whether America is by and large a fascist and racist country, the cards went on the table and the results are in: it is.
You lost and it was democratic, this is what America wants. Buckle up, you are in for a nasty ride. You can thank the American electorate for that, i.e. America, your neighbors and fellow countrymen.
Your shit was collected, sorted and got together, just as the US wanted.
And before someone starts to harp on about interference or lack of votes due to apathy or some weird 3rd ‘party’ siphoning votes from the democrats. Does not matter one bit, these arguments hold no significant water, not enough to change the outcome. By letting yourself be influenced or staying at home or voting ‘green’ we can conclude that this is what America gravitates towards by dumbness, disinterest or being easily fooled.
Sorry for the wall of frustrated text, it just boggles the mind how a country can be this stupid…
Not true that it was a huge margin. Don’t let their claims of mandate fool you
They won the popular vote by one of the smallest margins in recent history. Smaller than hillary did in 2016. They didn’t even get 50%, they got 49.9% of the popular vote
They lost a seat in the house. They will have a 3 seat majority vs their much larger majority in 2016. They have already infighting and struggling with less than that today. They’ll be down to a one seat majority for a couple of months too with their plans to pull people from the house into the admin
State and local dems did generally decently. Certainly much better than they did in 2016 where republicans had much more control of state legislature
For an example, north carolina republicans had their super majority broken up
Don’t let apathy consume you. There are winnable fights. There are even people who’ve already regretted there vote before he’s taken office. Was talking with people working with those hit by Helene in rural North Carolina who mentioned they heard a notable number of people with that exact sentiment
I commend your ability to garner hope. It is misplaced in my opinion but I admire it none the less.
Won the presidency
Won the senate
Won the house
Won the popular vote
Like I said, you have an admirable attitude to keep seeing hope, I on the other hand am a realist and see loss across the board.
The only positive for me is that I am old so I have seen shifts towards a alternate political spectrum before plus I am not American so I try to buffer myself as best I can to avoid mental anguish in seeing a country I admire(d) and love(d) slide into fascism. As per Winston Churchill : You can count on Americans doing the right thing, after exhausting all the other possibilities
I can only try to share your hope and place America in the “other possibilities” category at the moment and will rise to the occasion to be and do better.
For now I will be a casual onlooker and see what the current state of the US is, a choice of Americans to be governed by megalomaniac fascistic idiots. Who am I to deny them that choice? I have had no say in this choice so I will not be brought down mentally by the horror of said choice.
Good luck!
We just had 38 house republicans publicly vote for a funding bill that Trump publicly supported. He can only lose 3 on future bills.
We’ve had his pick for attorney general already withdraw from consideration after he knew he wouldn’t get the senate confirmation votes
They aren’t in lockstep in the way they need to be to be invincible
The US has managed to recover from the brink before so long as people fight
The very second US president, John Adams, threatened to be an all powerful leader after he passed the Sedition act. He used it to prosecute his political opponents for their speach. People fought against it, even if they had to write anonymously out of fear of persecution.
But the Federalist party that Adams was a part of was still only mostly on board. Took multiple votes despite them having control of congress. One of the provisions they ended up adding to get it through was one to make it expire in 2 years and soften the language a little. People fought it hard and eventually they let it expire once adams had lost the very messy elections of 1800 in part because of it
Not all of us. Not even a majority of us.
“None of the above” still got the vast majority of votes.
There’s just this peculiar set of rules which says the people who don’t cast a ballot, don’t count.