“Every CIA funded social movement which evidently is a result of Western destabilisation & interference is actually just the ordinary people desiring to become a vassal for the US-led imperialism and the Western media never lies. Everyone who’s anti-imperialist is a Putinist authoritarian commie redfash tankie. Long live the US-led imperialism and rules-based international order! 🏦 📈 🇺🇸 🫡 🦅 🚀 🎆”

– Western “leftists” & “anarchists”

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      Good question. I’ve asked that before. Never gotten an answer. I suppose it’s a bit like their version of “woke”.

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          I wouldn’t even call that “putinism” though, since it don’t have any defining characteristics outside of the usual grab and hold office opportunism. What is defining for it is a think elements of bonapartism, since Putin does try to stand on multiple class political support legs just as Napoleons did. He does it better though since he have something that really unite almost all of Russia - unwillingness to go back to 90’s.

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      I think “putinism” unfortunately definitely does exist, but it’s way less of an actual thing than neoliberals make it out to be.

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    I genuinely do not care what an Amerikan cracker, or really any cracker beholden to the five-eyed empire comes up with to call me anymore. They’re genuinely too fn willfully ignorant for it to move me. “Ohhh you’re an authoritarian tankie black supremacist redfash” yup, whatever you say, Hunter Kyle; and when you crackers are getting iced out by the international community and your empire is falling, I’ll still be that way; just laughing in your face as your country burns and your life becomes agony-- if I’m even still here, and either didn’t get murked by a cop, or actually made it to a more civilized part of the planet.

    'Cause I told you crackers so.

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    The western empire will starve a country out with sanctions, murder their leaders, train groups to terrorize their people, and then if some people in the country are unhappy and go for social unrest, the empire will position someone of their choosing at the head of the social unrest and encourage revolution there. If/when the country flips, so as long as its leadership lets western capitalists do what they want with the country (e.g. pillage it), it will be called “democratic” by the empire in contrast to its previous “dictatorship.”

    This isn’t to say countries never have problems of their own, even without imperialist interference taken into account, but the western empire will actively create mass suffering in a country in order to create the conditions for a ‘revolution’ that deposes a self-determining leader and installs a puppet.

    I know I’m preaching to the choir here, but I just wanted to outline how barbaric it is from start to finish. It is much like the line in The Music Man, a story about a con artist traveling salesman:

    “Oh, they got no problems here.”

    “Then I’ll have to invent one.”

    And then he invents a problem in the form of pool tables supposedly being a corrupting influence in their society. This is the playbook that the CIA functions on, but on a much more violent level. The bloodied hands of the imperialist traveling salesman carry “liberal democracy”, which in practice, for the imperialized nation, means, “Gutting your land, resources, and labor for parts, as if the human beings and longstanding culture there are nothing more than unfeeling machines.”

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    Capital is great at co-opting genuine social movements. It doesn’t mean the grievances are not valid or that protesters are all compradors, it’s just one of the way imperialist domination works.

    But it does mean movements have to be explicitly anti-capitalist, antifascist and anti imperialist to have a chance at resisting being co-opted.

    From Kronstadt to 21st century color revolutions, once you start taking Western capitalist money, accepting “support” from NED-adjacent orgs, or tolerating fascists because “they’re fighting our common enemy”, you lost control of the movement and it became the tool for CIA and the like.

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      Cuba is about all I have lol

      Technically a colour revolution, but Fidel accidentally forgot to tell the CIA that he was a communist.

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        With the amount of public support that the Cuban Revolution had, I don’t think it can be considered a color revolution. I read that over 90-ish percent of the public supported the revolution, and think about how many times the revolutionaries were sheltered by common people.