Recently Microsoft released the link 365 which is basically a thin client for Azure. You can’t run anything locally nor is there any local files. It literally just connects you to a desktop elsewhere.

Do you think this is what Windows 12 might look like? I feel like this idea is not practical for average consumers. Maybe they will make something that’s like Chrome OS?

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    Was it the future of Windows when they did this the last bunch of times? The Wyse Winterm came out in 1993. It was a huge failure then and every iteration of the same same thing since has also failed.

    What makes this version different? Branding? The fact that some of the OS/software doesn’t boot over the network? That you have to have a working Internet connection and not just a working local network and boot server (LOL)?

    No business wants this. No consumer wants this. There is no “added value” in this device. It literally only runs software made by Microsoft and even then, only software that runs through Azure.

    What office worker literally only needs Office 365? I mean, you can get away with a whole lot just in the browser but if you’re going to do that why bother with this device? Just use ChromeOS stuff (and never be locked in to Microsoft’s stuff).

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      Why do you say that no business wants this? Obviously, thin clients have been a thing for decades now. This is just another thin client, nothing more.

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        Thin clients have been failing to sell and being cursed by entire verticals, from individual contributors to top management any time they find an exception for that failure since the 1990s.

        No thin client ever saw repeat customers since dump terminals went away. But yeah, if your point is that they exist and have curstomers, that’s true.

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          I manage a fleet of thin clients for our organization. We have been buying and managing them for 10+ years. They are a huge cost savings over desktops for shared environments (I work for a company in the manufacturing space). For users that do nothing other than log in and check their email and update a spreadsheet, being able to shove 10+ user sessions on a single VM is much more cost effective than deploying and managing a full desktop.

          Plus, these devices can connect to Cloud PC’s, so users who need a dedicated machine can use these too. I have been using a Cloud PC for over two years now for all of my job functions and love it. I would happily take one of these devices, as all of my company issued devices are just used to connect to my Cloud PC.

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    They’ll make whatever sells subscriptions at this point.

    Don’t buy, only subscribe. From media to software and now to hardware and OS. No more license keys you can reuse, no more owning what you pay for, just live services and ever-rising subscription costs that can change at any time for any reason and neuters your ability to take legal action against them while they do it.

    Silence critics, control available options, capture profit - that’s the name of the game. They’ll sell this to businesses as ‘take your PC anywhere’ like you couldn’t already do that and then they have a hunk of plastic and silicon they need to pay out the nose for until they finally give it up. And they’ll have to give it up because it literally can’t run anything else on the available hardware. I’m sure folks will hack it apart but like, what’s the point?

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    That’d be a Chromecast TV stick, just with Azure?! How much is the hardware? I’d say this sells if it’s priced right. Let’s say $20 for the box plus $120 anually for a base subscription including Office 365. With optional extras like gaming that’d be on top. Plus extra storage fees and a bit of upselling, it’d be a viable business model, in my eyes.

    Edit: It’s $349 plus a currently unknown subscription: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/11/microsoft-builds-a-349-mini-desktop-but-only-for-accessing-windows-in-the-cloud/

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      That’s really steep for what you’re getting, I think. As a “PC Replacement” at home I can see there being a place for this. If you don’t need local compute, why not stream it. Steam Link was $50 and has the same basic concept, except for games.

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        Yeah, I think $349 is too much. You can get a MiniPC on Amazon for like $250 and that’d include a recent (low-power) CPU, 16GB of RAM and 512GB of SSD. So way more for $100 less, and you don’t even need additional cloud subscriptions.