I agree with you there. My point is that a government is not needed to have private property. Governments are inherently violent, but you can be violent without a government.
You’re really bad at logic. “You can be violent without a government” does not imply you can necessarily protect private property without a government. Because being violent isn’t enough to protect private property. Only certain forms of violence are (forms which you haven’t done anything to show can be performed without a government).
That’s not what private property is. You can read my other comment if you care, or you can just go on feeling confident that you were right in swooping in and backing up the ignorant raving of some idiot liberal. I don’t really care. 🤷
First, you are a very unpleasant person. Second, that’s a weirdly specific definition of private property. Last, if I need to exploit other peoples labor to derive value to have private property, and we’re using violence to do it, then we just invented slavery again.
As already pointed out, it absolutely will stop you. Also, try doing any of those things on land claimed by private entities such as capitalists, and watch how quickly the state’s goons arrest and/or shoot you.
You don’t need a government, you just need violence
And what is a government but legitimized violence?
I agree with you there. My point is that a government is not needed to have private property. Governments are inherently violent, but you can be violent without a government.
Not all forms of violence are useful for protecting private property.
Again, no one said that. All I said was that violence was needed for protecting private property. Not that all forms of violence is useful for it.
You’re really bad at logic. “You can be violent without a government” does not imply you can necessarily protect private property without a government. Because being violent isn’t enough to protect private property. Only certain forms of violence are (forms which you haven’t done anything to show can be performed without a government).
If I say something is mine and you disagree, a violence happens and whoever is left standing has private property. QED violence enforced property.
That’s not what private property is. You can read my other comment if you care, or you can just go on feeling confident that you were right in swooping in and backing up the ignorant raving of some idiot liberal. I don’t really care. 🤷
First, you are a very unpleasant person. Second, that’s a weirdly specific definition of private property. Last, if I need to exploit other peoples labor to derive value to have private property, and we’re using violence to do it, then we just invented slavery again.
Where is the line drawn between a government and a legitimized systemic form of violence?
There is no line, legitimate violence is just one of the services a government is expected to perform
It’s only “expected” to perform other services because its violence prevents us from doing those things apart from it.
If you want to pave roads, build bridges, and run charities, the government won’t stop you
As already pointed out, it absolutely will stop you. Also, try doing any of those things on land claimed by private entities such as capitalists, and watch how quickly the state’s goons arrest and/or shoot you.