that’s got to be at least per dewar / container. you’re not going to keep an entire facility going on 100w.
by storing liquid nitrogen they require no power.
bullshit. there’s going to be boiling even in a vacuum dewar; hell the moment you first fill it that load of cold liquid has to bring down the wall temps, causing some of it to boil.
it will have to be replaced eventually. and you’re entirely ignoring the fact that the nitrogen delivery is an tremendous cost in power, it’s simply occurring off site so you’re not counting it? pfft
so neither of us is a subject matter expert, but I’m not trying to sell you some kind of pie-in-the-sky ‘just top off the nitrogen and it’ll be fine’ line of bullshit.
as 99% of the people downvoted, perhaps maybe, just maybe, the way you’re expressing your views isn’t being read the way you’re intending. now, not saying you’re wrong, but perhaps with those kinds of numbers you’d be better off looking at what you wrote and revising that instead of silly stories about bicycle power and mythical efficiency.
and still, even if the nitrogen is delivered, internalize it does cost to be made. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
Even liquid nitrogen in a vacuum dewar will boil off a minute amount, which over time has to be replaced by new liquid nitrogen, which isn’t FREE TO MAKE.
you’re so fucking wrong and so oblivious I don’t see any point in continuing the dialogue. good day.
100w per person, as previously stated. Actually this is one of those “yes you’re all wrong” cases but again you’re engaging so that’s better than everyone else.
Remember what we’re arguing to begin, this went off the rails. The article implies that Cryonics facilities frequently unfreeze bodies when it was only the first ones decades ago. That is not true in modern times because the facilities can and do function with no electricity on site for long periods of time. Plus maintenance is relatively cheap because dewars use so little liquid nitrogen.
Yes of course they use small amounts of energy, power, and electricity in the supply chain off site, and money (it’s overall very expensive). Shouldn’t be necessary to make that point. Anyways, they can function for weeks or months with absolutely no intervention and the bodies do not unfreeze anymore, or it’s really unlikely. That’s the main point I’m trying to make.
that’s got to be at least per dewar / container. you’re not going to keep an entire facility going on 100w.
bullshit. there’s going to be boiling even in a vacuum dewar; hell the moment you first fill it that load of cold liquid has to bring down the wall temps, causing some of it to boil.
it will have to be replaced eventually. and you’re entirely ignoring the fact that the nitrogen delivery is an tremendous cost in power, it’s simply occurring off site so you’re not counting it? pfft
so neither of us is a subject matter expert, but I’m not trying to sell you some kind of pie-in-the-sky ‘just top off the nitrogen and it’ll be fine’ line of bullshit.
as 99% of the people downvoted, perhaps maybe, just maybe, the way you’re expressing your views isn’t being read the way you’re intending. now, not saying you’re wrong, but perhaps with those kinds of numbers you’d be better off looking at what you wrote and revising that instead of silly stories about bicycle power and mythical efficiency.
and still, even if the nitrogen is delivered, internalize it does cost to be made. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.
Even liquid nitrogen in a vacuum dewar will boil off a minute amount, which over time has to be replaced by new liquid nitrogen, which isn’t FREE TO MAKE.
you’re so fucking wrong and so oblivious I don’t see any point in continuing the dialogue. good day.
100w per person, as previously stated. Actually this is one of those “yes you’re all wrong” cases but again you’re engaging so that’s better than everyone else.
Remember what we’re arguing to begin, this went off the rails. The article implies that Cryonics facilities frequently unfreeze bodies when it was only the first ones decades ago. That is not true in modern times because the facilities can and do function with no electricity on site for long periods of time. Plus maintenance is relatively cheap because dewars use so little liquid nitrogen.
Yes of course they use small amounts of energy, power, and electricity in the supply chain off site, and money (it’s overall very expensive). Shouldn’t be necessary to make that point. Anyways, they can function for weeks or months with absolutely no intervention and the bodies do not unfreeze anymore, or it’s really unlikely. That’s the main point I’m trying to make.