• gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 days ago

    You can’t have a higher than 100% death rate, that means more people died than were involved in what happened

    By reasonable definition that’s 1 death: the mother

    By your own poor definition it’s 2: mother and fetus

    So where are we getting extra from?

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      9 days ago

      The fundamental core issue is: do we count the foetus as a life? If so, there’s no such thing as a “safe abortion”

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        9 days ago

        We do not, simple as, because it’s not

        That wouldn’t magically change the death rate, though, which was my point, don’t change the subject. If you’re not smart enough to understand basic math I’m not sure we should even pretend to respect your opinions on things more complicated than that, like basic science

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          9 days ago

          Science points to a foetus being a life- whether or not we value that life is a philosophical, moral and ethical issue. Biological, Physical and Chemical science isn’t the answer to everything.

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            9 days ago

            Science points to a foetus being a life

            No, science absolutely does not point to a fetus being “a life”

            Biological, Physical and Chemical science isn’t the answer to everything.

            True, but when you clearly don’t understand them at all (as you proved with your laughable statement in that very comment) then you also don’t have the answer, as they’re relevant to the discussion

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                9 days ago

                fetus, it’s weird that you insist on the incorrect spelling

                Something having cells does not make it “a life”, or else cancer cells are equally as alive as you and I and also can’t be removed without that being murder

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                  9 days ago

                  fetus, it’s weird that you insist on the incorrect spelling

                  Ah, typical yankee scum. Always thinking they are the world police, white supremacists thinking they control morality. Coming up with cruel ideologies like “let’s murder unborn children” “Let’s have school shootings” “let’s make people pay for healthcare.” “Let’s invade other countries”. “Let’s fund mass terror campaigns against people we disagree with”. Have you seen your clown election? Seems you’re even trying to get rid of free school meals. You lot are always expecting the world to think and act in accordance with your ways. Even down to trying to force your own system of spelling on us.

                  Anyway, cancer cells are a life. But we know it’s not a human life. A human doesn’t die whenever they are removed either, in fact, a human life is typically prolonged when they’re removed.

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                    9 days ago

                    Even down to trying to force your own system of spelling on us

                    Yeah, no, it’s literally the original Latin without the accent mark, it’s the preferred medical spelling regardless of location. But good job outing yourself as an even bigger hateful cunt than you already came across as!

                    Anyway, cancer cells are a life. But we know it’s not a human life

                    Nope, wrong, not that easy to worm out of your own logic. If they’re a life and are human cells, then they’re a human life

                    A human doesn’t die whenever they are removed

                    Same with a fetus

                    human life is typically prolonged when they’re removed

                    Also same with a fetus