Summary

Sen. John Fetterman faced backlash from progressives after his first post on Truth Social calling the hush-money case against Trump “bullshit” and suggested pardons for both Trump and Hunter Biden.

Fetterman reiterated his stance from recent interviews, arguing such cases erode public trust in institutions.

The response has been divisive, with Trump supporters and progressives both criticizing him.

Fetterman’s broader shifts, including support for Israel and mocking climate activists, have alienated some Democratic supporters while gaining him favor among conservatives.

  • kreskin@lemmy.world
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    Let me google that for you: According to historical records, during the Jewish-Roman wars, particularly the “Kitos War” (115-117 AD), a significant number of Greeks and Cypriots were killed by Jewish rebels, with Roman historian Cassius Dio claiming that around 240,000 Greek-Cypriots were massacred by the Jewish insurgents in Cyprus alone; this revolt saw widespread violence against Roman citizens and other non-Jewish populations across the Roman Empire, including in Cyrene and Alexandria

    google aggregated results from: https://www.heritage-history.com/index.php?c=resources&s=war-dir&f=wars_romanjewish#%3A~%3Atext=Second+Jewish-Roman+War+(a.k.a.%2CWar)+%3A+115-117+A.D.&text=It+started+in+a+Jewish%2Ckilled%2C+both+Jew+and+Gentile.

    "The Jewish Encyclopedia describes the Cyrene massacres:

    By this outbreak, Libya was depopulated to such an extent that a few years later new colonies had to be established there. Under the leadership of one Artemion, the Cypriot Jews participated in the great uprising against the Romans under Trajan, and they are reported to have massacred 240,000 Greeks (From Dio Cassius, lxviii. 32" https://countercurrents.org/2024/03/the-new-sicarii-the-jews-face-a-hostile-world/

    "The Zealots took a leading role in the First Jewish–Roman War (66–73 CE), as they objected to Roman rule and violently sought to eradicate it by indiscriminately attacking Romans and Greeks. Another group, likely related, were the Sicarii, who raided Jewish settlements and killed Jews they considered apostates and collaborators, while also urging Jews to fight the Romans and other Jews for the cause. Josephus paints a very bleak picture of their activities as they instituted what he characterized as a murderous “reign of terror” prior to the Jewish Temple’s destruction. "

    “The Sicarii were a splinter group of the Jewish Zealots who, in the decades preceding Jerusalem’s destruction in 70 CE, strongly opposed the Roman occupation of Judea and attempted to expel them and their sympathizers from the area.[12] The Sicarii carried sicae, or small daggers, concealed in their cloaks.[13] At public gatherings, they pulled out these daggers to attack Romans and alleged Roman sympathizers alike, blending into the crowd after the deed to escape detection.”

    both from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealots

    You see those citations [12] and [13], feel free to trace those back in the wikipedia bibliography notes if you need to.

    so killing hundreds of thousands, and indiscriminately killing all romans and roman sympathizers --men, women and children, just for the crime of being Romans is definitely a genocide. The areas were emptied of people entirely and had to be recolonized by Rome. Its pretty darn close to exactly the same as zionists killing people just for being palestinian isnt it. Do you understand now why they are the same philosophy and history is simply repeating itself?

    Heres a direct quote for you:

    “The Zionists are heirs of the original Sicarii” https://countercurrents.org/2024/03/the-new-sicarii-the-jews-face-a-hostile-world/

    So theres the quotes you demanded-- you’re welcome!

    And did you just cite David frickin Novak as your source, the guy who argues that zionism is only a coherent stance when done by Jews (he flatly rejects secular zionism) and calls for Israel to be a theocracy. Thats your “historian” “source” huh. You realize that your source vehemently disagrees with your assertion that zionism is secular, right? So your own source contradicts you. Thats pretty inconvenient for you, my condolences. If you need a source for Novak disagreeing with you, Here you go, from : https://www.amazon.com/Zionism-Judaism-Theory-David-Novak/dp/1107099951 “the main task of religious Zionism to be the establishment of an Israeli theocracy.”

    “Book Description This book argues that Zionism is only a coherent political stance when it is intelligently rooted in Judaism.”

    And you claim the mods might want to take a look at my comments huh, Thats hilarious. Tell me what TOS I have violated.

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      5 days ago

      awesome sources! looks to me like exactly what you wrote: a massacre, huge but not labeled a genocide by any reputable source, and a zionist who wishes modern zionism was a theocracy but has written, admitting in print, that it wasn’t.

      Tell me what TOS I have violated.

      nah i don’t care go read them yourself

      thanks for the opportunity to let me clarify. a few tips for an up and coming history scholar as yourself: it helps if you read the things you cite, and you might want to brush up on the accepted definition of genocide. 😊

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        awesome sources!

        At least my sources dont undercut my entire point like yours did.

        a massacre, huge but not labeled a genocide by any reputable source

        240,000 civilians killed simply for their ethnicity by terrorist means (and kudos to you-- you admitted its terrorism) is genocide whether you like it or not. I dont need some other author to write it out for it to be true. Thats not how truth works, friend. And its why zionist repression and suppression of media and academia wont work. Zionists dont understand this.

        nah i don’t care go read them yourself

        You do care, because you are the one who brought up "the mod"s and how they should come and look at our comments, just a comment ago. Its that you utterly failed to make your point and lack the basic dignity to take the loss, thank me for the sharing of data, and walk away like a well-raised and civilized human being.

        So lets summarize and close this off. Modern Zionism is functionally the exact same philosophy as historical Zealots and they conduct religious fundamentalist genocides and terrorism. You’ve admitted to the terrorism claim being true, and the UN and ICC substantiated the genocide. Historical fact shows us the Second temple era Zealots used the same exact means for the same exact ends, for the goal of creating an ethnically cleansed theocreatic nation state for Jewish humans only. Thanks for the conversation.

        You have yourself a nice day now. I’ll be blocking you now so we dont have to have a repeat of this behavior on your part.

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          chat isn’t this guy a storm? 😆 absolutely no regard for the HUGE difference that is a colonial power. super grateful that they blocked me so i can feel free to fact check them when they lie in the future. because im just based and anti-bigotry like that.