How is it any people cannot put themselves in that place with imagining? Even animals could identify with what would not be desirable. Humans should have the sensibility to know they would not want what the animals being used are put through, we can likewise choose to not have anything to do with that, and we can already find out ourselves that there are ways to be very healthy this way without products from animals. And the same amount of use of resources for it and contribution to damage to environments with loss of species does not need to be continued then. https://healthyaging.emory.edu/could-eating-30-plants-a-week-be-the-answer-to-better-health/
Chickens are processed at 10-16 weeks depending on breed. They are not tortured when processed. They are tortured when they are alive. Be upset at factory farming not eating meat. A properly raised and processed bird doesn’t suffer and has a happy life. Problem is, that costs a lot more.
Source: raise and eat my own chickens and eggs
It is all connected, this can be found to be true. Demand runs factory farming continually. Chickens are held captive until slaughtered however it is done and they value their eggs. Do you really not eat other meat? No meat is making you healthier than you could be with a variety of whole foods all from plants. And there are tasty meals, that I know about, this way. I can be a source of helpful information for that, but there are other ways of having information for that.
Eating flesh requires factory farming to be viable at a scale large enough for billions of humans. It’s literally impossible for every human that eats chicken flesh to raise their own chickens, this is a non-starter.
I’m not so sure about that.
Almost sounds like industry propaganda to prevent us realising we each could raise our own chickens.
Could convert a wall to be a chicken farm.
Yeah, I suppose you could raise chickens in a confined space where they’d be unhappy and unhealthy.
That’s the same problem with extra steps.
Just stop eating them. It’s way easier and cheaper than becoming a backyard farmer anyway.
‘what if you put a battery farm in your apartment’ top 10 dumbest ideas of all time contender.
I mean maybe but we could make it better allow people to raise birds in their yard for eggs and stuff. People just don’t want to.
But not everyone could actually do it - a lot of people don’t even have yards, or share yard-space with neighbors, or have other animals that wouldn’t be safe around chickens. A lot more people don’t have the time or energy to modify their yard to actually be a reasonable enclosure for a chicken with enough space for her to be healthy and happy, or to clean up after her or feed her or take care of her when she’s sick. This can’t be a solution to factory farming for the majority of humanity, it’s not even worth discussing.
Also, I actually had a chicken when I was young! She’s why I’m vegan, too. I realized I didn’t like the idea of killing her because she was my friend, no different than killing a pet dog or cat. I think, if more people raised chickens, they’d also realize that they don’t want to kill their friends. It’s easy to have empathy for a sweet innocent animal that you care for and would never hurt you.
I think we should normalize pet chickens, because I think people would start to see it as no different than killing 16-week old dogs.
Moved goalposts.
No I didn’t. My goalpost was “not everyone could raise chickens, factory farming is the only way for everyone to eat meat.”
And that’s a fact.
The way the word “processed” is used so casually is really saddening.
If you’re going to do this at least be honest about it instead of hiding behind these words to make it seem less terrible. You’re killing and dismembering these birds.
Honestly i could not care less how you frame it. Words are just words and somebody could just as well say euthanazied and prepared and it would mean the same thing.
I personally find this kind of things extremelly naive. Prey animals life is horrible and filled with constant dread of everything even without human intervention.
Reason why im against eating meat is because meat industry is bad for enviroment and modern day humans, at least in developed countries dont need that industry to survive.
Sure doesn’t bother me and I kill and butcher my own animals.
Going with your number of 16 weeks and the 10 years from the OG post, that’s equivalent to 160 weeks of life for a human with an life expectancy of a 100 years. Just about 3 years. Regardless of your death or how you spent these years, few people would call that a ‘happy life’.
Eh… It depends on what your process is, but most broiler chickens are killed at factory type farm operations at 5 weeks. The real questionable statistic in this is for cows, which rarely are slaughtered before they reach 24-28 months.
I think it’d be a fair criticism to say that most Western diets contain entirely too much meat, and that is a problem not only for humans, but a huge problem for the environment.
It wouldn’t be possible to ethically source enough meat to meet the current global demand. So imo having a meat heavy diet is a valid criticism. The morality of actually eating meat doesn’t even have to come into the equation to determine that our current diets are unsustainable and actively harmful.